At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government!
> On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: > > Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected > to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, > they also include them in iOS. > When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can > respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what > specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are > hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be > helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that > should last you a long time. > I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people > but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that > is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and > the screen reader developer in my previous message. > Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But > if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is > always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. > The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many > customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but > the documentation to have written the drivers. > Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). > > Jonathan >> On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Jonathan >> Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to >> turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on >> any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not >> like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will >> not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is >> horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's >> almost unusable. >> >> I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too >> expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me >> a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I >> know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed down the >> road. These displays absolutely must work for a reasonable length of time >> for it to be worth it for us to pay the kind of money that we pay. >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what >>> customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille >>> displays. >>> Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and once we got past some terminology, I >>> established what he wanted was the ability to install Focus Blue firmware >>> updates via the Mac. >>> Freedom Scientific presently doesn't produce any Mac software, but I agree >>> that it's not unreasonable to hope that if you've brought some hardware to >>> run on your Mac, you can upgrade it via that Mac. I can't give any >>> commitments at this point but I do want you and the list to know that the >>> request has been passed on and it is being taken seriously. Certainly >>> firmware upgrades are the responsibility of the Braille display >>> manufacturer, whoever that manufacturer is. >>> There is another issue, and that involves some displays apparently not >>> working on certain variations of Mac. In this case, if the device is >>> working properly in all other situations, this is most likely to be an >>> issue for Apple to resolve. Any screen reader developer, in this case >>> VoiceOver, writes their own drivers to interface with a Braille display. >>> The only drivers Freedom Scientific write are for JAWS, which they also >>> produce. From time to time, something may happen which breaks support for >>> certain displays, and naturally this is highly frustrating for those >>> affected. >>> I'm using the Focus 40 Blue regularly on a Mac with no issues. This doesn't >>> help anyone who is having trouble, but it does suggest that the problem may >>> be isolated to certain kinds of Mac, or even certain kinds of Mac produced >>> at a certain time, so Apple Accessibility is your best bet for this. Like >>> any tricky software issue, the more data Apple can get, I'm sure the more >>> likely it will be that they can isolate and ultimately solve the problem. >>> I hope that's of some help. >>> Jonathan >>>> On 12/05/2014, at 1:18 am, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi there ' >>>> I hope it works, but I might point out that if you call Freedom Scientific >>>> about your braille display like I did and you mention the words Macintosh >>>> computer, you are immediately told to call Apple. They won't even talk >>>> about it, no matter what your question is. I must say they sort of >>>> panicked when I asked about that cd that comes with the Focus 14. I didn't >>>> think it had a Mac installer on it since Apple puts those drives on our >>>> Macs, but I was hoping. I was told immediately no way should I put that cd >>>> in my Mac. They didn't know there was no way I was going to do that unless >>>> it was marked for that or they told me to do it. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Gigi >>>> >>>>> On May 10, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have written to Apple and to somebody who works in Freedom scientific >>>>> to see whether or not we can have firmware drivers as Mac installers. >>>>> Hopefully, we will get some results from that soon. >>>>> >>>>>> On 10 May 2014, at 08:59 am, Annie Skov Nielsen >>>>>> <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Kawal. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is good to write to apple. It maybe requires a cooperation between >>>>>> apple and freedom scientiffic to get it to work again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>>> Den 09/05/2014 kl. 22.41 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have written to Apple access ability or is it the other way round! To >>>>>>> discuss with Freedom scientific. Hopefully, I will have a response >>>>>>> soon, and will share it with you all. I have also written an email to >>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen to ask him to encourage freedom scientific to put Mac >>>>>>> installers of their products on their website. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9 May 2014, at 09:19 pm, Annie Skov Nielsen >>>>>>>> <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Kawal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have 2 macs here, on the older mac it works on this mac from 2011 it >>>>>>>> will not load the driver as you said. I can not figure out what's >>>>>>>> going wrong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>>>>> Den 09/05/2014 kl. 21.05 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it has nothing to do with the model, as the driver is stalled on the >>>>>>>>> bell display successfully. It is when you try and connect this >>>>>>>>> displayed via Bluetooth with the Mac. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9 May 2014, at 06:57 pm, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This seems very strange. I've had a Focus 40 blue since 2010 and it >>>>>>>>>> has updated perfectly. 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