I'm sorry if this strays a bit, but can someone send me a mail, off list maybe, 
on how to subscribe to viphone? is it viphone-subscr...@googlegroups.com or 
something? I'm just giving what I know of lists, but I don't know the domain 
its hosted at, or even if I'm already subscribed but the list isn't active, LOL
Devin Prater
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On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote:

> HI All,
> 
> thanks to everyone for your thoughtful posts / responses to this thread.
> 
> Kayaker has been with us for a while now and yes, he is in the process of 
> becoming a list moderator. It is actually down to my being very busy and 
> Google's unpredictable strange behaviors that he is not a list mod already.
> 
> So yes, what Kayaker is saying is essentially true. iOS posts are welcome 
> here but if they get past a point where they are not only exclusively iOS but 
> then also go off-topic or meander, then yes, they will probably find a better 
> home on VIPhone where the focus is specific to iOS devices.
> 
> So the take-away from this is that iOS posts are in fact welcome here but 
> since the list focus is Mac, it's best to kind of gradually move them over to 
> VIPhone when possible.
> 
> Having said this, I certainly do want members to feel welcome here, 
> especially those who have been here a while, as you have Kawal.
> 
> So I am inclined to have a bit of latitude in regard to how strict we are on 
> Mac vs iOS topics. Kayaker has the right idea though. Eventually it would be 
> nice to have MacVisionaries be for Mac and VIPhone be for iOS. Naturally 
> there will always be a bit of overlap which is fine and we have been 
> fortunate to pretty much always keep a good balance here.
> 
> So Kawal, don't go. :) You are welcome here. :)
> 
> If anyone has any further thoughts on this sort of list management then 
> please do feel free to email me privately. caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> Thanks for reading and do have a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be!...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cara :)
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> On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Well I'm going to stick to my point that I work full time and can't access 
> multiple lists. Since this person is the moderator I have offered to 
> unsubscribe which I don't really want to do as I have been on this list since 
> 2010 and I don't have 24 7 to look on multiple lists. So sorry., 
> 
>> On 2 Jul 2014, at 09:32 pm, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? 
>> I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes.
>> Devin Prater
>> d.pra...@me.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always 
>>> want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage 
>>> email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to 
>>> make a list work contrary to its stated purpose.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate 
>>> endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in 
>>> nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can.
>>> 
>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>>> Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem.
>>> You have a perception problem.
>>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
>>> E-mail-
>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>>> On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>> Hello.
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can 
>>>> talk about I phone matters  on this list.  Please bear in mind, some of us 
>>>> work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing.  If the 
>>>> moderators have a problem, please let us know about it.  If you are 
>>>> moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates 
>>>> this list.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> Kawal.
>>>>> On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker <sea...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries 
>>>>> list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific 
>>>>> posts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those 
>>>>> are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that 
>>>>> deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post 
>>>>> our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best 
>>>>> possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who 
>>>>> expect topic specific content from their list memberships.
>>>>> .
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> --k
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