Actually, Apple should have sued the NFB for slander and loss of
revenue. Now wouldn't that be poetic justice.
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone honored by NFB


Hi.  yes, that poorly researched and non objective so called review of
voiceover should have been formally retracted, along with an apology,
but,
that did not, and probably will not, come to pass.

Unfortunetly.

Cameron.




-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB


I believe that what you're seeing here is that they're trying to make up
for

the grave error they made with the Mac without in fact quite admitting
they 
were wrong.  You have to read between the lines a bit, but this is what
I 
firmly believe.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ben mustill-rose" <bmustillr...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB



I do find it rather funny that they slammed a program that ran on a
device with a full sized qwerty keyboard yet there all over the iphone
with its touch screen.

O well - step in the right direction anyway.

On 26/09/2009, Kevin Gibbs <kevj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You have to ask the sighted friend to turn it on in preferences, I
think.
> K.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe
Rykiel
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:30 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>
>
> Dear Chris,
> a friend of mine has one of these. Can you simply tell me how to turn
v o 
> on
> and off on his device so I can give it a try.
> Cheers,
> JPR
> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com>
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:05 AM
> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>
> It's called voiceover and as something that makes a device accessible
via
> speech and controls, it is voiceover, but with a different voice (not 
> Alex)
> and a phone-specific set of gestures instead of keyboard controls.
That
> said, it's included on every iPhone 3GS and the newer iPod Touch.
Previous
> models didn't have the hardware performance to run this so there is no
> upgrade to get VO on the older devices.
>
> CB
>
> Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote:
>
> Sorry for a very down-to-earth question, but does the IPhone come with
V O
> as well?
> JPR
> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com>
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>
>
> Some have difficulty comprehending what is new and, by definition, not
> well understood. So they define the new in terms of what's known from
> the past, but when something is a revolution rather than an evolution
> the comparisons fail. Some will lodge those failures as the fault of
> what was being measured and dismiss it as being flawed. Others, more
> rarely, will correctly realize that the measurement framework has
failed
> and reevaluate their worldview. The NFB has been measuring sharks for
a
> long while and Apple brought in an leopard. It will take time for the
> definition of 'good' to be redefined.
>
> CB
>
> william lomas wrote:
>> they can soon praise the iPhone yet slam the mac?
>> hyppocrits
>>
>>
>> >
>>
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> >
>


-- 
Kind regards, BEN.

email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)








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