I'm just a little ticked that they didn't update the iPod model. No wonder iOS8 
runs slowly on the iPod 5. It has the same specs as the iPhone 4s. 

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> On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:10 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok, do these newer models come with IOS8, or are they still running 7?
>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  The 8.0.1 and 8.0.2 updates were released rather quickly after the initial 
>> iOS 8 release. While the bugs seem to be quite egregious, I would presume 
>> most people would rather the next one take longer in the hopes that most of 
>> these irksome little buglets get worked out.
>> 
>>  This is why I am still using 7,1,2 and is also why I would never rush out 
>> to buy a brand new product that almost always will take time to mature. Some 
>> believe that if it were not for the front runners to seek out the bugs they 
>> would never be found. But for some, it appears that the troublesome issues 
>> far outweigh the benefits of getting the new features.
>> 
>>  Yosemite will be released soon but again, I will wait, probably a couple 
>> months or so, before I install it.
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
>> . . . what if it were true?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 10/15/2014 2:31 PM, mário navarro wrote:
>>>        waw man, well spoken.
>>> I admire your courage ...
>>> who believes that the 8.1 update will clear the problems of voice over /
>>> accessibility?
>>> I do not!
>>> even half of them will not be solved ...
>>> this update to be good for us, would have to be resolved about 45 bugs.
>>> and I'm talking about the most serious ...
>>> 
>>> all this will not be solved as it should and assumed with the respect it
>>> deserves ...
>>> 
>>> cheers.
>>> Em 15/10/2014 20:38, Yuma Antoine Decaux escreveu:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have
>>>> to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere,
>>>> slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not
>>>> working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say
>>>> that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is
>>>> trying to nudge things too much into the "let big brother figure out
>>>> for you what you should like and do". Point in case, that U2 debacle.
>>>> Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through
>>>> some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like
>>>> annoying ads. Really don't want some band pushing their crap on my
>>>> life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is
>>>> supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has
>>>> some great songs. But their current 50's midlife crisis moans aren't
>>>> my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple
>>>> store and wait for a genius to tell me my future.
>>>> 
>>>> Seriously folks, I'm not just going off on a rant, and for those of
>>>> you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a
>>>> few basic things:
>>>> 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple
>>>> makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music
>>>> production or app developement with their platform. They serve you.
>>>> Not the other way around.
>>>> 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively
>>>> create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the
>>>> direction of that experience. Personally, I don't trust Tim Cook that
>>>> much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a
>>>> pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of
>>>> human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to
>>>> make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are
>>>> frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last
>>>> apple showcase. but they don't have enough say yet, so we're stuck
>>>> with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead
>>>> of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces.
>>>> 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what.
>>>> Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of
>>>> the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It's frustrating
>>>> to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that
>>>> standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost
>>>> of the buyer, no. If it's broken, it should be free, such as what
>>>> google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky
>>>> experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out
>>>> the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good
>>>> experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both
>>>> sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to
>>>> rot in terms of presenting it's image. It's not an underdog but a huge
>>>> bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of
>>>> lawyers behind murmuring at the chief's ears, the latter being
>>>> probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us this weird
>>>> awkward show each year now with a barely straight talking TIm Cook who
>>>> sounds like he never had a girl friend chill time or something seems
>>>> amiss in him. Some soul? Something. Whatever the case, I don't really
>>>> dig the style apple is portraying. It's becoming a disney world
>>>> presentation with oooohs and aaahs when the tech behind is quite
>>>> literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this qualification should
>>>> by now, from all the sci fi, the research and the graduations of
>>>> bright people, should lead us much farther in terms of actual
>>>> interaction with a computer, and let's not forget screen readers.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>>>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>>> Mob: +612102277190
>>>> Skype: Shainobi1
>>>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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