I just sent my problem to Apple Accessibility, so maybe, just maybe, I won't have to throw this mac away, lol. This is so horrible that it's laughable.
Sent from my iPad > On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: > > You're right, and I agree. > > At 03:53 PM 10/19/2014, you wrote: >> Thank God Eileen you have some sense. >> There are too many people out here who are too willing to settle for >> whatever Apple gives us for fear of everything being taken from us. If we >> don't make our voices heard, Apple will take everything from us slowly but >> surely, and leaving the same people very grateful for the little they still >> have. How asinine. If we were proactive no one would have anything to be >> afraid of. It's not about complaining it's about being constructive. Our >> cited counterparts don't have any issues with making their voices known >> about a product defect of some sort. We shouldn't either. Ultimately those >> who say something to make it right for everyone gain more respect in the >> long run. The majority of blind people have been conditioned to gripe within >> their own bunch rather then communicate with those who could conceivably >> help them for fear that they won't help them. I enjoy the interaction and >> the help from any list I subscribed to technically oriented. However at the >> same time I'm also one who will pick up the phone or write an email to >> someone without having to answer to a group or organization. >> If more of us did that there would be less to be afraid of. >> >> Pam Francis >> >> On Oct 19, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> For many years, Apple has been held to a higher standard in accessibility. I >> posted about a problem that I was having and still having with updating my >> apps in the app store on my iPhone 4 using iOS 7.0.6. I did white to the >> accessibility team at Apple, but received an unacceptable response. They >> basically stated that they couldn't communicate with my address (a joke), >> and to either restore from a recent backup or to restore to the default >> settings. I regarded this as a lame excuse. Because I am just waiting for >> the next iOS 8.1 update, I was willing to leave it alone until another >> friend indicated that he was having the same trouble using iOS 7.1.2. We put >> our heads together and came up with 2 work arounds, but why do we need to be >> the ones that have to think out-of-the-box all of the time? I believe that >> we all need to become more pro-active and make our voices heard with the >> Apple accessibility team. It's not enough just for less than a handful to >> make Apple aware of all of the screwups that have happened in iOS 8 and now >> in Yosemite. I don't want to seem like I'm complaining, but as a blind >> community we need to continue to hold Apple to a higher standard and keep >> plugging away to obtain the products that r sighted counterparts just take >> for granted. JMO. >> >> Eileen >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Christopher Hallsworth >> > <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >> > >> > Well, same was true when iOS 8 beta 1 was released to developers. It >> > wasn't very nice at all. Good job it only ran on my mini as didn't want to >> > get stuck with an unreliable, possibly unusable 4s. All is history now. >> > >> >> On 19/10/2014 21:18, Brandt Steenkamp wrote: >> >> For those complaining about Yosemite, be grateful, Apple did not release >> >> developer preview one to the public. >> >> >> >> I will not go into detail here, but suffice it to say, it was not a very >> >> nice experience. >> >> >> >> Everything is working like clockwork on my end now, including all >> >> continuity features, except SMS, which is not suppose to work yet anyway. >> >> >> >> I am grateful we have no Windows computers in the house, for if my soon >> >> to be wife was running anything but a Mac yesterday when her computer >> >> decided to give us trouble, we would have been up crap creak without a >> >> paddle. >> >> >> >> Warm regards, >> >> >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> >> >> Sent from my macbook pro >> >> >> >> Contact me: >> >> >> >> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27605259181 >> >> >> >> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> My ring to Skype: >> >> California, United States >> >> +(1)760-5140161 >> >> Extension 512 >> >> Cape Town, South Africa >> >> +(27)213-002317 >> >> Extension 161 >> >> Johannesburg, South Africa >> >> +(27)105-002316 >> >> Extension 170 >> >> >> >> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 >> >> >> >> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com >> >> >> >> Twitter: brandtsteenkamp >> >> >> >>> On 19 Oct 2014, at 10:08 PM, Christopher Hallsworth >> >>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Yeah, I feel some have so much time on their hands they want to do >> >>> nothing but complain and even go as far as bashing Apple. Not fair if >> >>> you ask me considering the timeless work they do for everybody, not just >> >>> us. >> >>> >> >>>> On 19/10/2014 20:04, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>>> I can't agree with you more Juan. I don't know if i'm grumpy, tired or >> >>>> what, but it seems to me some times we like to complain just for the >> >>>> sake of complaining. I really do hope that when and if we report bugs >> >>>> to Apple that we don't use the tone we use here, because if we do, they >> >>>> might just quit giving us the accessibility we're so proud of and guess >> >>>> what, we would deserve it too. >> >>>> /Krister >> >>>> >> >>>>> 19 okt 2014 kl. 19:18 skrev Juan Hernandez <juanhernande...@gmail.com>: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Yosemite works great. I love the arrow key nav in safari. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I don't see all of the lag that others see. >> >>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about >> >>>>>> updating. Don't, under any condition. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Pam Francis >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:41 PM, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> My philosophy is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all >> >>>>>> that, go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble >> >>>>>> free, I would wait until Yosemite matures a bit more. Some of the new >> >>>>>> features I am quite interested in but they are not life changing. >> >>>>>> Same goes for iOS 8. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> From The Believer. . . >> >>>>>> . . . what if it were true? >> >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: >> >>>>>>> Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX >> >>>>>>> 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you >> >>>>>>> think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook >> >>>>>>> pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. 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