I wouldn't even know where to start looking, but if anyone can suggest a log to help with this random lag problem, please speak up. The more information we can offer Apple, the more they can have to work with. > On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:38 AM, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Alex, > OS X keeps many logs. One at least should be able to provide clues. I would > like to know which one would be useful for this as I want to see what > Mavericks is doing directly after login for the next 30-60 seconds. > > Have you done this? It might help to see what is going on there. > > From The Believer. . . > . . . what if it were true? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 10/20/2014 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >> I definitely don't have File Vault enabled, so this isn't the problem on my >> machine. >>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:01 AM, wayne17a <wayne...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello I have just found out the reason for my lag when I installed this os >>> I had file vault incrypt my files but I did not know this at the time and >>> now it has finished there is no lag to talk of so check in the background >>> to see if file vault is incrypting hope this helps >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:03 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: VO and lag on Yosemite >>> >>> The lag seems random. I've heard of 4GB ram machines running fine, while >>> newer ones with more ram have the lag. I've heard that Nuance voices cause >>> the problem, and that they don't. I've been told a clean install made >>> things worse, or a bit better... All I can say is: if you have this >>> problem, report it to Apple along with the specifics of your machine. >>> Hopefully they can pin it down that way. >>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This lag issue is a bbig deal breaker for me. I won't upgrade until >>>> something is done about it. I mean, c'mon apple! I don't care about fancy >>>> new features, just don't screw up the basics. a sluggish response would >>>> drive me nuts - I'd probably go back to windows rather than put up with >>>> that. >>>> >>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:43 PM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com >>>> <mailto:onlineea...@googlemail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Well I'm not getting any lag whatsoever. If nything, it seems more >>>> responsive. I'm using the Daniel Nuance voice. I'm running a 2011 MacBook >>>> Pro. However, I do have 8 gig of ram I think. >>>>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 01:25, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What is the spec of your machine with this lag? >>>>> So far observing posts on list the people who have reported lag and >>>>> specs appear to have 4GB machines. I have a 2011 iMac but 16 GB so am >>>>> hoping that the lag will not be so much of an issue if I make the leap. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 01:02, Vic <vtsa...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:vtsa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I clean-installed Yosemite and this seems to have improved VoiceOver >>>>> response somewhat, but there's still the feeling of pushing the stone up >>>>> the mountain when typing or navigating with VoiceOver. Interestingly >>>>> enough, with a Braille display connected, you definitely see how much >>>>> faster the text appears there as compared to Alex speaking it. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:26:43 AM UTC-7, Christopher Hallsworth >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi all >>>>> I can tell you that during the developer previews and public betas the >>>>> lag has been always there somewhat. I did both a clean install and an >>>>> update on a secondary partition on my internal disk with the same >>>>> results. This was on a late 2011 Macbook Pro 13 with 4 GB of RAM. It's >>>>> tolerable but do sympathize with those having a more severe lag than I am. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my laptop >>>>> >>>>> On 18/10/2014 14:10, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>> I've heard one or two reports of a clean install making the lag >>>>>> considerably worse, which is something I've never heard of a clean >>>>>> install doing. For my part, the lag with Alex is there but tolerable, >>>>>> while the lag with Nuance voices is ridiculous. I have no activities, >>>>>> and I'm on a 2012 MacBook Air, 4GB ram, 1.7GhZ I5 processor. >>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:40 AM, David Griffith <daj.gr...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I moved from Mountain Lion to Mavericks I noticed a big >>>>>>> improvement once I had made a clean install >>>>>>> . This may assist you as well this time and also you may want to look >>>>>>> to make sure you do not have activities running just in case this is an >>>>>>> issue for Yosemite as well. >>>>>>> When I move to Yosemite I will probably attempt an upgrade but will >>>>>>> then probably do a clean install later if there are any performance >>>>>>> issue. That process appeared to work well then with all my apps etc >>>>>>> being taken across from myTime Machine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 00:32, Faisal <newyork...@gmail.com <javascript:> >>>>>>> <mailto:newyork...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yes, i did it but nothing happens >>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 08:22, Maria and Joe Chapman <bubbyg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <javascript:> <mailto:bubbyg...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi. have you tried repairing permissions and has this made any >>>>>>>>> difference? >>>>>>>>> thanks ? >>>>>>>>> Blessings! >>>>>>>>> maria and Joe chapman >>>>>>>>> bubbyg...@gmail.com <javascript:> <mailto:bubbyg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 12:28 pm, Dionipher Herrera <dion...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <javascript:> <mailto:dion...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> yes me too, and i hate it. >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2014, at 01:32, Faisal <newyork...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:> <mailto:newyork...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> so I took the plunge and installed Yosemite. I'm noticing a >>>>>>>>>>> definite lag with voice over. 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