What is a sounder? 
I have a second generation Apple TV. I have a HDMI cable connected from the 
Apple TV  to the TV and an optical audio cable connected from the Apple TV to a 
Bose SR1 soundbar. Audio only media such as iRadio and media air played from my 
iPhone works great with the TV powered off. But, video such as Netflix doesn't 
play without my TV turned on. 
Hope this makes sence.
By the way, I have no issues with media or VoiceOver stuttering or any think of 
cutting in and out.
Rod
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse any errors.

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Scott Berry <sb356...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Nope you don’t have to have anything but a sounder everything works fine 
> without the Tv.  I am single and don’t watch a lot of Tv but there ar certain 
> shows I like and I also like the fact of the radio on the Apple tv as well.
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:32 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> Well, forgoing the whole TV thing is definitely not possible here. I have a 
>> cited husband who would not be happy. Besides, I thought you needed the HDMI 
>> something to do with the video, before you could do things like watch 
>> Netflix.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Scott Berry <sb356...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the Third generation.  I forwent the whole TV thing though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Which AppleTV do you have, Scott? The second or third generation one? 
>>>> Someone suggested that the latency problem is less or nonexistent with the 
>>>> more recent model. Someone else said they still had choppiness. So I 
>>>> decided to go for the analog out on my TV to the analog in on my sound bar.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Scott Berry <sb356...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am using a Philips sound bar myself.  I don’t really watch TV but enjoy 
>>>>> many devices through my Sound bar.  I am currently using the Fiber Optic 
>>>>> cables that the Apple Tv allows for.  I have used HDMI successfully as 
>>>>> well though with my LG Electronics sound bar that I had which broke.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Robert Cole <mr.robertc...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tried using your TV headphone jack?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would love to be able to do the audio and video through a single 
>>>>>>> cable and still be able to use good speakers. How can one do that? In 
>>>>>>> both of my scenarios, I have had to use the digital optical cable, in 
>>>>>>> order to avoid using the horrible TV speakers. How can that be done 
>>>>>>> with just the HDMI?
>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>> Do i have to connect it through a dac then?
>>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>>>> 23 dec 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net>:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Actually, yes, the Apple TV box does have an optical output. However, 
>>>>>>>>> let me point out, that the optical output on the Apple TV is strictly 
>>>>>>>>> for nothing but digital audio. No video whatsoever passes through the 
>>>>>>>>> optical port. If you want to do the audio and the video through a 
>>>>>>>>> single cable, you have to use HDMI.
>>>>>>>>> Your progress
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> The Constantly barefooted Ray,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone,
>>>>>>>>> the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 7:48 PM, jeffrey greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, The apple tv itself has an optical output, but i think you need 
>>>>>>>>>> to purchase the cable for it directly from apple. On the other hand, 
>>>>>>>>>> I have an apple tv approximately one year old and its choppy both 
>>>>>>>>>> with VO and movies through my tv’s speakers. It just started after 
>>>>>>>>>> the last apple tv software update. I’m hoping there will be a new 
>>>>>>>>>> update to correct this.
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, I have an older Apple TV, the first model that had 
>>>>>>>>>>> voiceover. I have it connected to a TV through HDMI.
>>>>>>>>>>> It works fine through the internal lousy TV speakers. When I 
>>>>>>>>>>> connect my sound bar to the TV using the TV optical  output from 
>>>>>>>>>>> the TV to my sound bar, voiceover becomes very choppy and 
>>>>>>>>>>> inconsistent, to the point to that sometimes I hear no voice over 
>>>>>>>>>>> output at all for the currently focused menu item. I had this same 
>>>>>>>>>>> problem with a different set up with the same Apple TV, and thought 
>>>>>>>>>>> it was a problem with either the cable or the AV receiver I was 
>>>>>>>>>>> using. Has anyone experienced this? I am now believing there is a 
>>>>>>>>>>> problem with my AppleTV, and I should just  go buy another one. But 
>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure hate to get stuck with $100 loser. Still, it is hard 
>>>>>>>>>>> for me to believe that this problem with optical outs from a TV to 
>>>>>>>>>>> a sound bar or anything to do with optical out on the AppleTV would 
>>>>>>>>>>> cause a problem. Surely, you can't just use it with the HDMI and 
>>>>>>>>>>> your TV speakers only?
>>>>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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