Hi all,
I have to go against the grain. If you think Apple or any other vendor is going to spend time on building a non-graphical environment as outlined on this thread. It will not occur due to no market. We are .5% of the market thus there is no business requirement for them and they will not get their ROI. The CLI on the Mac does provide text base applications if you like to learn. people like things to be easy, thus why we have GUI now. Sean On 3 Jan 2015, at 5:19 am, Yuma Antoine Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Where and when is the nFB? I heard a few conflicting ideas about the > organisation. But I would take the momentum to engage the voice. > > Cheers, > > Yuma Antoine Decaux > "Light has no value without darkness" > Mob: +612102277190 > Skype: Shainobi1 > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 > > > > >> On 2/01/2015, at 12:59 pm, Joanne Chua <shuang.an...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> What about if we start asking Apple to make some products that is >> specificly for voiceover, and don't worry about GPU at all hey? Won't >> it be great? Maybe, someone might want to bring this up on this year >> NFB convention? >> >> On 02/01/2015, Yuma Antoine Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> What I'm trying to induce here is the sense that no matter the graphic >>> outline, everything starts graphicsless and elements are pulled out of the >>> lower layers, such as kernel, login daemons etc. The graphics layer itself >>> cannot be omitted since it is also the core of a lot of coco frameworks >>> which voice over relies on. >>> >>> However, when I say graphcsless, I mean to place to a minimum all of the >>> animations and flash and graphics that appear. I would easily visualise a UI >>> which borders, buttons and everything else are just placeholders with plain >>> black and borders that don't load images. No background image, no transition >>> animations, no stupid bouncing apps that go "hey I'm here" etc etc. This can >>> free up ressources and reserve them for voice over itself. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Yuma Antoine Decaux >>> "Light has no value without darkness" >>> Mob: +612102277190 >>> Skype: Shainobi1 >>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 2/01/2015, at 10:03 am, Jason White <ja...@jasonjgw.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> BobH. <long.c...@virgin.net> wrote: >>>>> I think a lot of us have said for a good while, that modern 'puters are >>>>> 99% >>>>> eye candy or effects; and maybe as much as 1% real work, though doubt >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> DOS worked so well, cos it did none of that. Boring to the sighted, but >>>>> >>>>> even they were more focussed on getting real info in or out and not just >>>>> >>>>> there to play with it. >>>>> >>>>> So, yes, a cutToTheQwik system that took us back to doing the stuff >>>>> we're >>>>> doing, without all the other overhead, would have some use; can think of >>>>> >>>>> professional areas where it would be saleable for it's simplicity; but >>>>> doubt it's going to happen. >>>> >>>> It's already happening. If you work primarily from the Linux console >>>> (just >>>> using the GUI for tasks that require it, e.g., Web browsing), you >>>> essentially >>>> have what you've described. >>>> >>>> this can't be done in the same way under OS X, which always loads a >>>> graphical >>>> desktop environment. >>>> >>>> I'm writing this message from a Linux virtual terminal. >>>> >>>> So far as the two operating systems are concerned, there are some >>>> applications >>>> for which I like to use OS X, but it's my Linux laptop that I'm using >>>> most >>>> often at home just now, even though the Macbook is newer. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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