Hi! OK I’m no expert but also could some of these problems be that sites do not code properly for Safari on the Mac I always hear sites talking about jaws window eyes and NVDA and sometimes IDivices but no mention of Mac and voice over! This is on UK sites and of course they say their accessible compliant! So maybe some are out of Apples hands! Colin
On 17 Mar 2015, at 23:10, Joseph <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > I know. While I’m sure that things sometimes get corrected, still at other > times, I kind of have my doubts. But here’s hoping that Apple listens and > will in time correct things. I wish they would demonstrate a little more > willing to the consumer that they are really trying to correct accessibility > concerns. > >> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:06 PM, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I did so last year but so far to no affect. >> >> DavidGriffith >> >> On 17/03/2015 20:34, Joseph wrote: >>> Hello, >>> Please express this to Apple Accessibility. >>> >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have changed the subject line to reflect the direction the discussion is >>>> going. >>>> >>>> My own observations on Safari is that it is my preferred browser on all >>>> platforms for general news and page reading largely because of the >>>> excellent Reader function. >>>> >>>> However like others I find that there are serious obstacles to using >>>> Safari and Voiceover on many websites. Generally these problems appear >>>> related to sites involving financial security measures / password >>>> verification and after various problems experienced I reluctantly have >>>> decided to revert to Windows for many task. >>>> >>>> These include. >>>> 1. My Nat West Bank site which is unusable with Safari and Voiceover and >>>> dumps me out at unpredictable moments. Entering passwords on this site >>>> under Safari is also very confusing as there is no audible key echo, even >>>> a click. Whether this is a Safari or Voiceover problem I do not know but >>>> this log in section and other parts of the site works fine with both >>>> Firefox and IE with a range of Window Screen Readers so I suspect it may >>>> be a Voiceover issue. >>>> >>>> 2. There are problems for me with the multiple shopping websites which >>>> use the UK Verified by Visa security password verification system for >>>> authorising payments. >>>> To be fair I have occasionally managed to get this to work on Safari but >>>> on too many occasions Voiceover does not recognise the edits boxes on the >>>> page, or even when it does it does not seem able to read out the message >>>> content asking for characters from your password. >>>> >>>> On many occasions Voiceover does not give any feedback at all, even a >>>> click when attempting to enter text into these edit boxes which is >>>> confusing and has in the past resulted in me having to reset my password >>>> because of too many log in attempts. >>>> >>>> This means that even if I do the first part of a shop on Safari I normally >>>> switch to Windows to complete the checkout of my trolley or basket to >>>> avoid experiencing these problems. >>>> >>>> What would help would be a screen refresh or screen redraw function as >>>> available in Jaws or Window-Eyes as this resolves many focus issues on >>>> that platform but I am not sure that this is a technology available to >>>> Voiceover , at least I have never found it so it would be great if >>>> somebody disabused me of this. >>>> >>>> I have reported these issues to Apple Accessibility and pointed out that >>>> in the UK at least we are talking about the most major web providers. I >>>> think Nat West is still the biggest online bank and all Nat West customers >>>> have to use Verified by Visa if they are to use major online stores like >>>> Tesco's and Sainsburys. >>>> >>>> Hopefully one day it will be sorted out. >>>> >>>> David Griffithto in >>>> . >>>> >>>> of the 2015 19:50, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: >>>>> I found this with my electricity company. I couldn't subscribe to one of >>>>> their flat rate plans with Safari but could using Firefox under Windows. >>>>> >>>>> On 17/03/2015 13:48, Phil Halton wrote: >>>>>> I have been finding that safari fails quite a bit in certain websites >>>>>> where I try to make a purchase. I can think of three websites off-hand >>>>>> where I recently was kicked out using Safari. It just doesn’t work with >>>>>> Safari. Even my bank yells a bit when I log on with safari although it >>>>>> lets me in. >>>>>> In these cases, I use internet explorer in a windows VM and problem >>>>>> solved. >>>>>> >>>>>> I checked to see that safari had JAVA enabled, but beyond that I can’t >>>>>> think of what might be the problem. Maybe Safari just isn’t a main >>>>>> stream browser and can’t handle sophisticated websites. >>>>>> I like using safari, but I can’t rely on it for all my internet browsing >>>>>> and need a backup like IE in windows. Too bad! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> I was trying to purchase Clean my mac yesterday. >>>>>>> When i came to the payment method there was 3 unlabled radiobuttons to >>>>>>> select payment method. >>>>>>> Very annoying to not be able to buy a mac program from my mac. >>>>>>> I have to do this in linux instead. >>>>>>> /A >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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