It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure.  As they 
have updated the software, there have been bug fixes.  There are still 
Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still present.  
However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug fixes in it.


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> On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     
> shut your mouth silly!
> everything is still unresolved ...
> think first before you talk...
> 
> cheers.
> Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:
>> Whatever people.  I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is 
>> the key word... Did!
>>  
>> Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had 
>> an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed.  Maybe 
>> then, you'll believe me.
>>  
>> Chris.
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>> http://www.clgproductions.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Pamela Francis
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
>> 
>> I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer 
>> in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it.
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, "Jon Solitro" <jon.soli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I 
>> found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I 
>> update, or can I expect slower operation?
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say 
>> that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my 
>> iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like 
>> slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started 
>> looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too 
>> much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and 
>> do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some 
>> mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 
>> tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band 
>> pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for 
>> a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. 
>> Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans 
>> aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an 
>> apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future.
>> 
>> Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who 
>> want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things:
>> 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes 
>> money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app 
>> developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around.
>> 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create 
>> experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that 
>> experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good 
>> experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design 
>> skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, 
>> coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I 
>> can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented 
>> at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re 
>> stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead 
>> of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces.
>> 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I 
>> wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of 
>> creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most 
>> companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be 
>> broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, 
>> it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of 
>> hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that 
>> damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I 
>> call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, 
>> both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to 
>> rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky 
>> oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers 
>> behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being probably more 
>> complacent than should be, thus giving us this weird awkward show each year 
>> now with a barely straight talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a 
>> girl friend chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul? 
>> Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the style apple is 
>> portraying. It’s becoming a disney world presentation with oooohs and aaahs 
>> when the tech behind is quite literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when 
>> this qualification should by now, from all the sci fi, the research and the 
>> graduations of bright people, should lead us much farther in terms of actual 
>> interaction with a computer, and let’s not forget screen readers.
>> 
>> Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>> Mob: +612102277190
>> Skype: Shainobi1
>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
>> 
>> 
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