Oh wow! I was not aware that they'd changed that. That's really really cool.

Chris.

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Subject: Re: [Virus Error] Re: A question regarding Startup Volume in LowLevel / FileVault Startup


Hello,
In the newer MBPS and I would assume the same to be true of the latest iMacs, there is a slight difference in the way things work with VoiceOver when unlocking FileVault at startup. Older machines have 1 beep, 2 beeps or 3 beeps as you step through the process. In the newer machines, both the account prompt and the password prompts are spoken. While after the password has been typed and enter is pressed, then you will hear the 3 beeps. So what I'm saying is this. VoiceOver does not actually talk when the volume has been previously reduced to 0 by a previous user, prior to closing down the machine.
But for now, I'll use the resetting of the PRAM.




On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder if you’re misunderstanding. How is Voiceover going to speak for him at this low level? He’s not saying that Voiceover volume is low I don’t think. I think what he’s saying is the beeps you hear when trying to unlock the drive, right after you hear the startup chime are somehow muted or turned way way down. So at this point, any VO commands aren’t gonna work.

I apologize for getting in the way if I’m wrong and only further complicated this post.

Chris.

On Apr 14, 2015, at 1:19 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:

Hi,

No real answer to the problem but I have two workarounds for you.

1. After pressing cmd-f5 and you notice that there is no sound, press VO-cmd-left arrow three times, then press VO-cmd-up arrow a number of times. The System volume will increase and you should soon hear VO speak.

or, if everything seems to be messed up and you can’t make it work that way...

2. Reset your PRAM. This will put things like the sound back to defaults and the next time you turn on VO, sound will be there.

Sorry, not the exact thing you were looking for, but it may help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 13, 2015, at 21:57, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, Joseph.

Just! freaking, wow! Seeing how advanced I am of a mac user, I always love! the questions like this, which really get you thinking/ponderring. I'm gonna have to definitely research this, but man oh man! You really have got me curious now! If you find out anything, let me know, I'd be profoundly interested in your findings.

Feel free to  hold on to my e-mail address and keep me updated.

clgillan...@gmail.com

chris.

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Subject: A question regarding Startup Volume in LowLevel / FileVault Startup


Hello List,
Here’s an interesting situation that I’d like to bounce off all of you.
On one of our MBPs using FileVault and several accounts. Here’s the problem. Say, I log in under my account using the VO prompts after hitting Command F5. The machine requests the account name. Then I press enter and it asks for password. Then I press enter and the machine gives three beeps or an error message, in either case, the machine either starts or lets me give it another try.
Ok., all’s well and fine.
Now for the problem.
User #3 gets on the computer and logs in. This user isn’t a VO user, so volumes and things don’t really mean much. He logs in and in the course of using the computer, for some reason he decides to reduce the volume to 0. The problem is that when I go to log in as a VO user, I have no output info regarding the state of things while using VO after Command F5.
So here’s the Billion Dollar question.
Does anyone know of any way to preset the volume level at the FileVault/Recovery system level for VO users at a constant value, no matter what any other users do. If the audio provided at this low level is influenced by users after logging in, I kind of am a little curious as to why this isn’t completely isolated from post boot conditions. Again, does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could preset and lock the Volume Level for Pre Unlock or Recovery modes?
For example something preset in terminal or in the ROM somehow?
Thanks in advance.

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