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> On Sep 15, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, I am not sure but I think I've been insulted! My friend I think you're > going to have to start your own such list. I mean, after all, look who you're > asking for advice and direction. Very same people you think are fools adios > my friend good luck bye > > Sent from my IPhone > > >> On Sep 15, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Considering the kind of polemics this list is going through, and that I >> haven’t seen one topic of which I am not aware of being an older mac os/ios >> user, I think it is time to shut my subscription from this list and look for >> a more adapted list which tries to advance the ideas of technology, and >> voice over in particular. May someone point me to a list which basically >> does not discuss so much about how to click this icon or make this boot >> drive work with that OS but rather a more creative output of ideas, >> developer topics and other subjecst that may appeal more to computer >> scientists, programmers and other creative heads? I know of some list that >> goes in this line, but I am looking for a place where everyone, or a large >> majority is a blind apple developer, programmer or tech industrial who uses >> xcode or can enter a more intellectually stimulating line of topics to help >> me understand better what blind/visually impaired users are looking for in >> apps, technologies such as A.I, machine learning as applied to apps or even >> conceptual discussions for sonificating apps for games and interactive >> media? Or does such a list exist? >> >> In any case, I hope this list will clean up a bit as now it has become a >> large boudoir of everyone throwing in their opinion on every topic, which >> has become very tedious and superfluous at this point. I am not pointing >> fingers at anyone in particular, but hope that as a group, this list will >> start putting more emphasis on what matters. Action is much more respectable >> than politics and competing to have the most score in giving technical >> advice or saying what you think. I have noticed one very important >> difference between sighted and visually impaired users. The former are >> inundated with visual advertising and therefore know how to filter out the >> superfluous. As a blind programmer, I live in a world almost devoid of any >> ads save youtube, and therefore am much aware of the superfluous. So I >> preffer filtering it out rather than sticking to some strange illusion of >> grandeur over being in some list where everyone is cackering over >> everything. In some ways, this is counter productive as it is hours and >> hours of writing back and forth, every day. Think about it. It has no >> utility and no intrinsic value. >> >> But people get addicted to it, just like anything else in the world. I’d >> rather get addicted to producing music, apps, creating technologies and >> being outdoors camping, going to festivals, socialising, dining and doing >> sports than being addicted to responding to tech help requests. >> >> In any case, take care of yourselves everyone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.