How does a battery get swollen?
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 02:22, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> right now, I am not even running with a battery. I am using only the power 
> supply to run this thing. the battery is swollen to the point of not even 
> being able to fit the case. Also, I don't have the funds to go and get it 
> replaced. so, I do what I can with what I got.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
> 
>> I wonder whether your battery is causing overheating.  I had this issue on 
>> my old Macbook pro similar age as yours, and at that time a search on the 
>> internet revealed that the likely cause was the age of the battery.  I had 
>> to change it and things had improved.  Just a suggestion.
>>> On 27 Oct 2015, at 20:23, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ok. well, I haven't installed El Capitan here as yet (not sure my 2007 
>>> vintage whitebook would even allow it to install). THere are one or 2 other 
>>> issues I have been having on this white book of mine (some random crashes 
>>> of voiceover, generally due to web page code viewed via safari). Also, 
>>> lately, the fan has been running all the time, even when I have nothing 
>>> going on the desktop. so far, looking through the logs hasn't revealed the 
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> any ideas?
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> MacPaw actually has an offering called CleanMyPC, which has no relation to 
>>>> the tuneup utility BitDefender provides. If it has, I'm not aware of it, 
>>>> since it is vastly different and only included with other products and 
>>>> neither company has given credit to each other.
>>>> 
>>>> With that out of the way, you can trust CleanMyMac. I own a copy, although 
>>>> it's for various reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
>>>> 
>>>> runs  all maintenance scripts at the same time. You can verify they have 
>>>> run by typing
>>>> 
>>>> ls -al /var/log/*.out
>>>> 
>>>> Saying that, beyond doing what the maintenance scripts do, they don't 
>>>> actually clean up application leftovers. Depending on the app, you can 
>>>> have support files, caches, plugins, libraries, preferences, and saved 
>>>> states. The maintenance scripts primarily deal with logging, at least from 
>>>> what I can tell when looking at them including log files. The leftovers 
>>>> are really where I gain some space back. I used to look for these manually.
>>>> 
>>>> Despite that "dragging an application to the trash deletes everything" 
>>>> that isn't true with everything. I've found that to be the case with most 
>>>> applications I have, but I still see some that leave associated files 
>>>> around. You aren't going to get those unless you set up a cronjob to look 
>>>> for them, either based on a schedule or when the maintenance scripts last 
>>>> ran. Of course, looking for those paths is easy enough to do, so it's not 
>>>> as big of a deal, but it's still time you could spend on doing something 
>>>> else. That's been my own experiences ever since I first started running OS 
>>>> X, in particular with apps not from the Mac App Store. Looking through 
>>>> /library/Application Support, it's easy to tell which apps require a bit 
>>>> more work before all of it is gone. Of course, bottom line is that you 
>>>> don't actually need to shell out any money for apps at all, since you can 
>>>> do it yourself. CleanMyMac and Cocktail just make it easier. Oddly enough, 
>>>> the article only mentions caching and logging, but not the application 
>>>> deletion misconception. I always hear "just drag it to the trash and it's 
>>>> gone" which just glancing at folders shows that isn't always correct. 
>>>> Dragging .app to the trash doesn't clear associated files elsewhere. Of 
>>>> course, with apps from the Mac App Store this shouldn't be an issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Food for thought. CleanMyMac already does all of that, so it's fairly 
>>>> useful if for no other reason than it automatically warns you if any 
>>>> leftovers are still around when deleting applications. It's easy enough to 
>>>> forget about.
>>>> 
>>>> Nicolai
>>>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this case it’s actually legit and the name is merely unfortunately 
>>>>> similar to the dubious Windows program.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I still wouldn’t use it, though.  Here’s as good an explanation as any of 
>>>>> why Macs really, really don’t and shouldn’t need “cleaning”:
>>>>> http://www.thesafemac.com/the-myth-of-the-dirty-mac/
>>>>> 
>>>>> A Mac that is on 24/7 has a slight advantage here over that which is on 
>>>>> only occasionally, but not by much.  Use “sudo periodic interval” 
>>>>> (daily/weekly/monthly) if your Mac is frequently shut down.
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