Safari locking up? Never seen it. Scott, I haven’t got Windows on either of my Mac machines and I’m glad about that. At home, I solely use the Mac as like you, if I had windows on here, I’d fall back to windows. This I think has made me feel comfortable.
I have the up-to-date VMware installed but no Windows. I like to keep my VMware updated just in case I bought Windows. I just can’t be bothered with all the setting up of Windows which is easier enough in VMware as one is very independent of installing Windows on one’s own but a lot of work is involved. However, installing Voice over in 15 minutes once you’ve done a clean install. I now have the instructions of how to put the operating system on my USB stick, and I think I could wipe my disk now with just a few bits of guidance. I even now manage my Wireless network on my own as I had to learn due to living alone as one has to become efficient in stuff like this if one wants to get online and use the internet. Living alone has made me self sufficient these days. Kawal. > On 9 Nov 2015, at 16:52, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mark, > > I can't say I agree. > > El Capitan at least to me, is far removed from previous releases when it > comes to bugs. > > I yearn for the days of Mountain Lion when Safari didn't lock up. > > > > On 11/10/2015 12:05 AM, jeff `greene wrote: >> Hi Mark, Thanks for your input! The first time I updated to 10.11 half >> of my apps would open saying "program" has no windows. Some of these >> have been updated since, and a couple i got rid of because I found >> better options on the app store. Also in 10.11 safari seemed really >> buggy, I couldn't always search from the address bar, while typing my >> search term all of a sudden voiceover would say "no heading" etc and >> I'd be popped out of the address bar. This safari strangeness was also >> happening when i went back to 10.10.5 but now seems to be better. I >> think I'm going to wait until 10.11.2 comes out and then give it >> another shot! >> Thanks, Jeff >> >> >> On 11/9/15, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am in complete agreement with Mark. I also use standard view in mail. Then >>> again, I mainly use my tiny computer, AKA iPhone 6+. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 9 Nov 2015, at 20:59, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Jeff, >>>> >>>> I, for one, am absolutely delighted with El Capitan. I cannot reproduce >>>> many of the bugs that some have mentioned. This may be, in part, because >>>> of the differences in the way people interact with the OS and/or >>>> applications. >>>> >>>> For instance, I think the Mail application is better than ever but, I use >>>> the mail application in standard/default view, complete with the preview >>>> pane, as opposed to Classic view. >>>> >>>> I think it comes down to how and what applications are most important to >>>> the user. For me, the most important application is OS X Mail. So, for >>>> me, as long as that one works as expected, then I can deal with all the >>>> rest. Having said that, I am finding El Capitan to be a remarkably stable >>>> and accessible compliment to iOS 9.x in virtually every regard. >>>> >>>> Consider this: If you were going to buy a new Mac, today, it would ship >>>> with El Capitan. Now, would that fact prevent you from buying the Mac? >>>> because of the reputed bugs? >>>> >>>> I don't think I've ever heard of a VoiceOver user returning a recently >>>> purchased Mac because of accessibility bugs. >>>> >>>> Just something to consider. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeff `greene >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 2:35 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: haven't taken the plunge yet! >>>> >>>> Hi, Well when OS X 10.11 came out I upgraded and it wasn’t a good >>>> experience. Now I notice they are up to 10.11.1 do you think I should try >>>> it again? I’m running a 2012 15-inch macbook pro with 16gb of ram and an >>>> SSd. 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