Hey Grant,

Sorry if my message sounded a little snarky.  That wasn't my intent at all.  I 
was very tired, and probably should have just gone to bed and responded to your 
message in the morning. :)

I agree that blocking all Apple domains is pretty drastic, I certainly wouldn't 
want to do it.  I think, though, that he's frustrated enough with Apple on this 
that he's going to do it as a matter of principle.  When I sent him the link, 
he said he had already blocked one of the domains, just didn't know about the 
second one.  Happily, he's very technologically savvy, so if he runs into 
trouble, he'll know how to unblock the domains.

I have to agree with him about Apple.  There are lots of reasons people might 
not want to upgrade, and they should have the option not to, without being 
pestered about it by their devices every day.  I've certainly learned something 
from all this, I will *never* have my cell carrier as my ISP. lol
Take care,
Donna

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 10:44 PM, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Donna,
> 
> My bad. I did miss the fact that your friend is using a cellular provider as 
> his ISP.
> 
> Blocking all Apple domains at the router level definitely should do the 
> trick, but he may wish to test his devices as I’d guess tons of other 
> critical Apple services won’t work either. I wonder if there’s a subdomain he 
> could block instead that might not be so drastic. It certainly would be nice 
> to have a way of turning off automatic downloads of iOS updates.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Grant
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2016, at 8:44 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com 
>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Grant,
>> 
>> With all due respect, read the earlier messages in this thread.  The problem 
>> is that my friend's cellular provider is also his ISP.  He has a shared data 
>> pool for both wifi and cellular.  So theoretically, yes, he could run around 
>> the house every night turning wifi off on all his devices so that nothing 
>> ever downloaded, but that's a really dumb solution to a problem that 
>> wouldn't exist were Apple not trying to force people into something they 
>> didn't want to do.  Actually, Sabahattin's article helped.  What my friend 
>> did do was block all Apple domains from his home IP.  It's a pretty radical 
>> solution that should not be necessary, but hopefully one that will work for 
>> him.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
> 
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