Why do you think I don't do audio tutorials anymore for people free of charge? When I did, no one ever was greatful, and so I quit. I still record tutorials, and I still offer one on one training, but I absolutely refuse to do it any longer for free under any circumstances. If people want my service bad enough, they'll pay, otherwise, they just won't get it.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Davert" <scottslistm...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver


If you don't want to pay for it, and you feel so strongly that it
should be free, why not go out there and do all of the work yourself
for free and publish your own independent guide that is better for no
charge? $35 is quite affordable, when you consider a comprehensive
tutorial on, say, JAWS for Windows with Microsoft Word from
blindtraining.net will cost you more than twice that amount. If you
feel it's not worth the money, then use the free resources available
and do what the rest of us have had to do.... figure it out. If the
resources available aren't enough, then you will need to pay, just
like sighted people have to pay for books about how to do certain
things with Windows/Mac, how to program, etc. I'll bet if there was
enough interest in a paid audio guide, it would be something people
would be willing to spend the large amount of time to produce. I can
tell you that developing a resource such as something like this takes
a lot of time and effort. You don't just sit down and magically write
a book in an hour or record a 40 minute podcast in 40 minutes. While
I've never charged for the stuff I have produced, this is also why I
only spend so much time on it and why it's not perfectly done.

JMO,
Scott

On 2/29/16, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
I’m sorry, if you can’t spend $35 then you shouldn’t be spending your m only
on computers and non essentials.  Otherwise if you don’t like it don’t buy
it else nobody cares.  Personally, $35 seems more than reasonable to me
especially when you consider how much in return you can get from the
investment.  Some people just expect to be handed everything for free.

On Feb 28, 2016, at 10:06 PM, Jason Shaw <crazywint...@gmail.com> wrote:

This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge which
would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they financially able or
not.


On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to have a
free option to share with my assistive technology class. The instructors
know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and I was very unprepared
to help them make a course for it.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>




On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao"
<kevincha...@gmail.com <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:

   Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels?
   On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org
   <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:

       Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on
       this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She
       clearly knows it inside-out.
       Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband
       Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an
       eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has published
       it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over
       40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the
       application.
       You can learn more about the book here
       <http://mosen.org/index.php/mymacpages/>.
       Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a
       real need out there.
       Jonathan Mosen
       Mosen Consulting
       Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
       http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org>

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