Regular OSX also has all the same server capabilities but you need to
know your way around the command line to turn on Apache or MySQL. OSX
server gives you a nice interface to all the good stuff under the hood.
Probably worth the $20 but I'm already familiar enough with terminal
that I haven't bothered with the upgrade (yet).
CB
On 3/24/16 8:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Simon, why don’t you run a Unix variant on your servers and just be done with
it. Much greater stability, great remote access and to say it’s tested and
true for decades is an understatement.
OSX server is just Unix with a pretty wrapper.
On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:44 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
Interesting,
I'm only really getting started with macs but the hardware is excelant and the
OS brilliant, but I can't go past the windows OS and jaws for power use with my
servers, however most of that would be due to lack of time with OSX server.
-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2016 1:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
Well look it’s not entirely Microsoft’s fault. I’ll be the first to bash the
folks in Redmond but in this case the NFB had a lot to do with it as well.
There were payoffs made by certain screen reader manufacturers to the NFB to
have the NFB protest the creation of built in accessibility. After all, Ted
Henter doesn’t make any money if Apple and Microsoft give away screen readers
for free. You will also note there were several hit pieces against Apple
written by the same organization. It’s just Apple ignored them.
So Microsoft of course by now should do more but there’s history there.
Apple also always had a soft spot in a lot of us older blind folks heart
because it was likely one of the first somewhat accessible computers we used.
The Apple 2 series had all sorts of add on voice synthesis cards that started
to open the door for us. It’s how I started.
On Mar 23, 2016, at 4:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
Scott,
Would you say apple don't listen even though we can contact them when there is
an accessibility issue with a IOS or OSC system and they work quickly to
correct the issues.
Full stop they have listened enough to give us accessible platforms out of the
box.
What do Microsoft do for us?
They always leave it up to the third parties.
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Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event
It’s really not in apple’s culture to listen to consumers. Remember their
attitude is they come up with great products we can’t live with out.:)
Remember the antenna issue. It wasn’t a flaw in the design it was the user
holding the phone the wrong way according to apple.
You hav ea good point that companies should listen to customers and generally
do well if they do but I never have thought of apple as being big listeners. I
could be wrong maybe others feel differently. Apple though was always to me
that closed black box that just works and solves a problem I didn’t know i had.
On Mar 22, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdress...@gmail.com> wrote:
In all of this I wonder if consumers are not voices what they would
like Apple to develop directly to Apple. How can a product be
developed without a demand?
Vaughn
On 3/22/16, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Another perspective is that most people don't know a great thing
until there are a few years of hindsight. I remember one of my
co-workers got one of the very first iPhones and I couldn't figure
out why. It was a battery hog, heavy and my little folding phone made calls
just as well.
Who knew then what the trajectory would be? There is also 1.0
iteration issues. The original Lisa was expensive, slow and buggy
but they kept iterating on the basic strong bit of a more human-centered
interface.
That eventually became the Mac and it's been pretty good since.
Lessons learned from the Newton as well. So is today's Apple Watch
just a Newton or Lisa - a good core idea that is usable today but
needs more development? Maybe AppleTV is just iPhone 1.0 and we
haven't realized where it's going to go.
There is one snag in the IoT when those are durable goods. Most
devices are running about a 3-year life cycle but my fridge, TV and
thermostat are expected to go much longer than that. So what happens
to my iOS enabled fridge when iOS 15 comes out? TVs are really
hitting commodity prices where margins are super thin so I doubt
Apple would want to get into that space. It does make sense to have
a removable brain (AppleTV) which I can just plug into the TV or upgrade when
brain 2.0 comes out.
That also means when the TV dies I can swap it without tossing the
the brain with it. That was the idea behind having separate
components in AV systems. If you had a TV with a DVD player in it
and the player dies, then what?
CB
On 3/22/16 1:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
They will sell new iPhones, the iPad is arguable at best. Sales
have almost tanked on iPads and let’s face it, the phone carries
Apple when you consider just how much of it’s cash flow is on the phone
exclusively.
And you m are good points but I counter with where has been
anything in the last 5 years. Ok larger screen, incrementally
faster processors. Apple didn’t do anything Samsung or the other
guys haven’t done other than continuing to execute a design that
was better to start but that’s only going to get them so far. I
agree it doesn’t have to be earth shattering overtime but once in
the last
5 years would be nice. The watch is a maybe but when that’s all
you can point to that’s just sad.
And I would disagree about the earth shattering / disruptive part.
Ask a cab driver if his / her life has changed:). I shorted a
large hotel chain last year because it was about to get Air BnBed
out of
existence.:) Excellent and well presented points though,
definitely something to think about.
I hope I’m wrong by the way, I’d love to be blown away for years to
come by Apple products. I’m a big fan I just hope they can find
their way again.
On Mar 22, 2016, at 1:16 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com
<mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think people have to put this into perspective. There hasn’t
been any significant innovations by any company that has been
earth shattering. I think there is an expectation that people have
that Apple is going to release an actual time machine or a version
of SIRI that will do your laundry or make you coffee.
Realistically, I don’t think we’re going to have any major jump in
technology for some time to come, so if you think every Apple
event or Google event or Microsoft event is going to present
something so truly awesome, you probably will be left a bit
disappointed. We might see minor jumps here and there, but the
curve is going to be relatively fixed for a while.
The other part of it is from a marketing standpoint, it was
important for Apple. There are areas of the market that these
products now fill for them and for companies, it’s about the
revenue stream. It might not have been Mac refreshes or anything
that directly impacts the blind, but they will sell the new iPads
and iPhones and a lot of them too.
Take Care
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On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Rod Skene <skene...@gmail.com
<mailto:skene...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I liked it. Very impressed with the update to Apple TV. Folders,
dictation, and Bluetooth keyboard are all very big for me.
I really like the new iPhone. May try to find a way to switch
from my 6S plus to the new smaller four-inch phone.
Finally, off-line dictation on my iPhone is really big for me as
well. Overall there are several new features and a piece of new
hardware that really interests me.
Rod
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse any errors.
On Mar 22, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Jenine Stanley
<dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I really think in terms of these presentaitons that we consumers
are our own worst enemy. We now *expect* big things, in March,
in June from WWDC and then again in September/October.
I’m reeling a bit just thinking about iPhone 7 possibly this fall.
I just got a 6s. I know that the new phone plans where you pay
each month and can get the latest and greatest phone are
becoming the thing but at some point I’m afraid we’ll get to
that stage where we can’t be impressed by anything unless it
shocks us or is hitting us with the force of short time spans. I hope that made
sense.
Maybe the Spring Event for Apple needs to be toned down. Maybe
they don’t necessarily need to have one.
Was I hoping for more? Yes, but more detail, not more new and
innovative.
For those who feel Apple isn’t blazing trails anymore, what trails?
How do we know this? Just because they aren’t publicly saying
anything about projects doesn’t mean they aren’t happening. That
goes for any company.
I guess my htought on the event as a whole is that it was what
it was and over-analyzing, which we all are guilty of in this
24-hour news cycle world, can only lead to disappointment…unless
Apple sends me that space Black Milanese Loop band for saying this.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
On Mar 22, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Jenny Wood <kc5...@gmail.com
<mailto:kc5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I didn’t take time out of my day to monitor the event, but I am
kinda glad I didn’t hold off on buying the Apple Watch back at
Christmas, when the predictions were that a new version would
be released this spring.
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But the truth is,
I could no more stop dreaming,
Than I could make them all come true.”
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On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:32 AM, Scott Granados
<sc...@qualityip.net <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
Wonder if anyone else felt the way I did. The event seemed to
be a total waste of time. Watch bands, really? You wanted
time out of my afternoon for watch bands?
In my professional opinion it was serious weak sauce. Wonder
what others thought, is it just me?
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