Sorry, I should've read that before I sent it. Hopefully you understood it.


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Mar 27, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If you are attempting to add an item to a container than using the drop to 
> place it there makes sense. Using  Often when dragging, you and before Orange 
> than  after typing VO-comma to mark the drag location then moving to apple 
> one would press vo-Greater to move after apple. In this case, you could just 
> as easily do vo-less on Orange and get the same results.
> 
> Gee, if this works on IOS with a bluetooth keyboard it would make rearranging 
> the home screen much easier. 
> 
> VO-. to creat a folder vo-< to have the dragged icon take the place of the 
> current icon. 
> 
> already have several items in the container (lets say a list Apple Oranges 
> Pear
> Les If you want to add Plum to that list without caring where it would go 
> then the drop function could be used.
> 
> However if you want Plum to come after Apple )
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Mar 2016, at 17:37, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> A shock from that one also.
>> 
>> What is the difference between drag and drop and drag after and drag before?
>> 
>> 
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 March 2016 2:59 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to add an item to the dock?
>> 
>> This is interesting.  I had never even heard of the Drag after or Drag 
>> before commands.  Good to know there's a way to do this, but I think I'll 
>> just stick to using the contextual menu or the keyboard command.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> FWIW, I was able in the latest OS to get the VO drag commands to move 
>>> something to the dock.
>>> 
>>> 1. Go into system preferences- Dock and uncheck “Automatically hide and 
>>> show the Dock unchecked checkbox” 
>>> 2. Don’t use the drag command but instead use the drag after or drag 
>>> before commands ( vo-Greater and VO-< )
>>> 
>>> Though generally, I just use the contextual menu when the application is 
>>> running.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if that would be considered an accessibility bug that the 
>>> Dock hides itself before the drag operation can complete Certainly, sighted 
>>> folks can use spring loaded folders and other wizbang stuff when dragging 
>>> and dropping. Though I can’t imagine exactly how such would be controlled.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Mar 2016, at 10:20, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you, Shawn!!!  I knew there was a command to do this, but I couldn't 
>>>> find it on my Mac using Spotlight, nor could I turn it up using Google.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Donna. Alternatively, if the app isn't running in the background, find 
>>>>> it in the Applications folder and then press Control+Command+Shift+T. HTH.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
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>>>>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?  I'm trying to add an item to 
>>>>>> the dock.  I press CMD comma to mark it, then CMD . to move it.  I just 
>>>>>> keep getting the dragging noise.  The Mac seems to want a third 
>>>>>> keystroke, but I have no idea what that would be.  Have tried space, 
>>>>>> Enter, and VO-Space, but they all just abort the drag and Drop.  
>>>>>> Alternatively, if there's a keyboard command that would do this, I'd 
>>>>>> love to know.  I've searched the menus for such a command, but have not 
>>>>>> found it.  
>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>> Donna
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