David,

Thank you for saying what I honestly was scared sick to say in fear of being 
called an audio snob who doesn't know anything.

I, too, am into audio, as it's part of my job.  Being I am not only a 
professional musician, but also am a professional audio engineer/producer.

You hit the nail dead on the head!  I couldn't a said it better, had I wanted 
to!
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 7:50 PM
  Subject: Re: IPad: I am in blyss heaven with this thing!


  Unfortunately, that assumption is incorrect. I went to an Apple store and 
tested both for sound, side-by-side, playing the exact same passage of the 
exact same song. I then had my fiancé randomly play one or the other, in the 
same position in front of me. Note, she is a former chelloist, so has a good 
ear for musical sounds.


  The iPad Pro 12.9 has absolutely phenominal sound, with excellent frequency 
distribution. It is crisp and clear. Stereo separation is topnotch. Even more 
impressively, the sound stage is projected a few feet above the device when 
playing at volume. When the device is rotated, the balance of the speakers 
compensates, even for mild tilting. I want one, just for the fabulous 
soundstage it creates.


  Unfortunately, the iPad Pro 9 does not have the same great sound. It sounds 
much like her iPad Air II. The base is somewhat muffled compared with the Pro 
12.9. The stereo seperation is significantly less. The soundstage does not 
displace / project in front of / above the device.


  If excellent sound is desired, the i'pad Pro 12.9 is the only game in town.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 10 Jun 2016, at 09:01, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:


    The 9 inch iPad Pro is said to have the same speaker array as the 12th. So 
you would get a little bit less separation, but it should sound the same. I 
haven't heard either one. But that 12 inch monster is just too darn big as far 
as I am concerned. But to each their own. My cited husband is lusting after one 
because of the size. But he can see.
    Mary



    Sent from my iPhone

    On Jun 9, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


      Guys,

      I have always, as you all probably know, been incredibly happy with the 
IPad lineup of Apple products.  Coming from an IPhone, it definitely took a 
little bit to get used to with the IPad having the split screen on certain 
things.  A great example of this is the native IPad Settings app.

      Anyway, this month, I aquired a bit of extra money.  I'm not gonna go 
into how that happened, but we'll just say I got probably an extra 500 dollars 
from what I'd normally have each month.  For this reason, I decided to sell my 
IPad Air first generation.  No, I don't have Mark's permission to sell it here 
on list, but realize that I'm not doing so anyway.  The IPad's actually already 
spoken for, so there should be no objections.

      Anyway, with my extra money, plus, what I got from selling that IPad Air, 
I went to the AT&T store with my grandmother, and one of my best friends, and 
we all picked me up a bright shiny new 128GB IPad 12 inch Pro.

      OK, before anyone says, Ewwww!  You wanted a dinosaur that was that 
freaking huge, realize something here.  Firstly, I never clamed that the thing 
was the easiest to hold in your hand.  Yeah?  I'll admit that holding the thing 
is a little bit awquard.  I'm not gonna deny that.  But, here's the thing.  I 
dono how many of you all have heard the sound quality of the 12 inch Pro, but 
let me tell you all something: this sucker is breathtaking!  For one thing, I'm 
not sure about the speakers on the first gen Airs, (not to be confused with the 
Air 2's,) but I can tell you now beyond a doubt that the 12 inch Pro has at 
least! stereo speakers.  The separation is phenominal!  It might even have 
quadrofonic.  I can't quite tell.  I need to look up its specs.

      If you like the volume you get from the IPad Air, or from the IPad Air 2, 
for that mind, but you wish it had a bit more low end to it, like what you'd 
get with a pair of external speakers, then the IPad 12 inch Pro is your answer. 
 Let me put it this way.  I have quite a severe hearing loss.  Even for me! I 
can't turn this thing up all the way without blasting myself out.  This thing 
gets loud!  And, I do mean, loud!  If I had to compare, for those of you who've 
heard the Logitech bluetooth U E mobile boombox, think the amount of base you 
get from that speaker, then on top of that think the maximum volume you get 
with the Air, or with the Air2.  Now put those two together.  That's basically 
what you'd have on the Pro, provided that you had it turned about 3 notches 
down from being full max volume.  Suffice it to say, volume isn't an issue.

      the other thing that blew me away is the battery in this thing!  Guys, 
you wouldn't believe this!  I'm not one for making a product look better than 
it really is.  When I say something is a certain way, I don't exagerate things 
as some people might do.  Here are some literal stetistic numbers for ya.

      I decided to benchmark my battery.  I put my IPad on a police scanner 
feed with Scanner Radio Deluxe from Gordon Edwards, and let it stream over my 
wifi.  I started the feed at 3:30PM on the dot, ironically enough.  I let it go 
all afternoon, and all night.  I even let it stay going after I went to bed.  I 
just wanted to see what it would do.  So, at 3:30PM, I had 31 percent battery.  
Guys, I swear I'm not making this up!  When I woke up the next morning right at 
around 5:00AM, get a load a this!  That battery was at 18%  Literally It only 
went down about 13%, and that was over 14 hours roughly, of constant internet 
audio streaming.

      I couldn't freaking believe it!

      Suffice it to say, yeah, the Pro's are a bit pricy, and yeah, they may be 
monster honkers as far as their physical dementional size, but I'm telling you 
now: oh, my, Gawod! are they worth every penny!  So, if you get an oppertunity 
either to get one, or at least to see/play with one of your friend/relative;'s, 
or in a store, do it!  I'm so! not kidding you!  Do it!  You'll be blown away!

      Chris.

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