So did many of the Microsoft websites for a long time.  It’s changed since but 
there was a lot of Linux at good ol MSFT for a while.

> On Jul 1, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> The interwebness runs a lot on linux also.
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2016 7:49 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: semi-ot: Sonar virtual machines and dealing with virtual box
> 
> Linux runs on everything.  My car has Linux in it I believe.  Macs are all 
> Unix under the hood and Linux is just a flavor of unix.  Solaris is another 
> flavor for example and Free BSD yet another.  All can run on a Mac.
> A Mac is a general purpose computer in the sense you can write what ever you 
> want for a device as long as you support it’s hardware.  It’s not just OS X 
> that you can run.  Remember, Bootcamp folks run windows natively every day.
> 
> There’s Unix for raspberry pies, linux running on computers half the size of 
> sugar cubes and on the other end of that spectrum, linux running on super 
> computers larger than many federal building complexes. A unix variant and I 
> believe in some cases Linux are even run on computers with in the space 
> shuttle going that far back or on the space station today.
>       The reverse is also true.  a PC like a Dell can also run OSX.  That’s a 
> legal issue and not licensed hardware so not a great idea administratively 
> but the hardware isn’t the issue.  Stuff runs on stuff it’s more generic than 
> you’d think.:)  I run router and firewall code right out of network 
> appliances to simulate their behavior on a Mac so my Mac spins up 4 virtual 
> Juniper routers and a couple SRX firewalls and I build a virtual lab 
> environment, running on the actual code but yet it sits right in my laptop 
> for me to build, takedown and rebuild to suit my testing and modeling needs.
> 
> Hope that clears things up.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> i think the only Mac thing here is that Linux runs on mac? unless i am
>> missing something? :)
>> 
>> On 7/1/16, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>> All you do is boot holding the shift key down, you hear a drumbeat
>>> deal and then speech starts.
>>> 
>>> Should be relatively straight forward.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 7:22 AM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm, how were you able to boot with speech? I didn’t think much of
>>>> trying the mainstream distros, since I’ve heard that Unity isn’t
>>>> accessible mostly.
>>>> Sent from my Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> Devin Prater
>>>> d.pra...@me.com <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net
>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How did you try to install it under VMWare?
>>>>> 
>>>>> One thing I had excellent luck with was Ubuntu under vmware fusion.
>>>>> You can install it and boot with speech and you pretty much use the
>>>>> normal image creation tool, select the image, enter the type of
>>>>> Linux and give it a few minutes to build a VM.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That might be something to try.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com
>>>>>> <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all. So on my path to learning Linux stuff, I’ve gotten
>>>>>> Emacspeak to work with the help of Twitter folks, but now wanna
>>>>>> see if Linux will be useful to me as a whole. I’ve gotten Fedora
>>>>>> working, sort of, but there aren’t any blind-specific packages
>>>>>> that I see on other Linux lists, so I now turn to Sonar. I’ve had
>>>>>> VmWare Fusion for a while now, but using Sonar with it just fails
>>>>>> after installation, nothing happens. So I got Virtual Box in order
>>>>>> to play with an Android talking virtual machine, which stopped
>>>>>> talking after updating talkback, and found that besides freezes,
>>>>>> probably from it being Android, ported to x86 architecture, it ran
>>>>>> pretty quickly and responsively, unlike VmWare unless you tweet
>>>>>> settings in VMX files. So, are there any tips for more easily
>>>>>> using Virtual Box, like adding iOS files to virtual machines and
>>>>>> running them, when I tried it didn’t work, or anyone that has a Sonar 
>>>>>> Virtual machine that works in Virtual box, or VmWare somehow?
>>>>>> Sent from my Mac.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Devin Prater
>>>>>> d.pra...@me.com <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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