You have to get a watch to get it but I find my absolutely critical now.  It’s 
so nice to be able to quickly flick and get the latest pop on your watch or be 
able to walk away from your phone and just access quick data nicely on your 
wrist.  For sited users, being able to glance down say while driving even or in 
various settings where you don’t want to break your focus for a full look at 
your phone.
        Another nice set of features are the health features.  Even a gentle 
tap on the wrist to just stand up and move around and stretch hourly or 
motivation to meet your workout goals.
        You can quick respond again from your wrist to messages or take a quick 
call.  It’s hard to explain.  Also, the Apple watch is more independent than 
people think.  Since version 2.1 I believe it was given WiFi functions so it 
can join your home network or other WiFi networks with some caveats and work 
independently from the phone including placing and receiving calls if your 
carrier supports WiFi calling which my carrier does fully.  
        To be clear, I was with you and then I got one as a gift and now I 
don’t know what I’d do with out it and I’m dead excited to see watch 2.0 next 
week.



> On Sep 1, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> I've never really understood the point of the Apple watch, sure it can run 
> apps, but so what, my phone does that, and the watch requires a phone 
> connection to do most things anyway, totally redundant.
> Original message:
>> Hello Mary,
> 
>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an 
>> active role in what the future brings.  We, as consumers, have alternatives 
>> and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that companies pay 
>> attention.
> 
>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous 
>> decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so 
>> certain that just because it decides something it better will make it so.
> 
>> I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it would 
>> change the lives of the world.  Well, as far as I can tell, my world hasn't 
>> changed one bit either with or without it.
> 
>> As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to follow 
>> Apple's lead in the coming future.  As one of the executives of Samsung 
>> recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when it follows."
> 
>> My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see.  Fortunately for 
>> me, I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest device 
>> just because it is the latest.
> 
>> Mark
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the 
>> iPhone seven
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the 
>> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage 
>> card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the 
>> other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new 
>> phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other 
>> headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the 
>> headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device 
>> makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In 
>> fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a headphone jack on 
>> the phone.
> 
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
>>> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the 
>>> new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack.
> 
>>> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the 
>>> removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to 
>>> its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, 
>>> effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept 
>>> those features.
> 
>>> A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS 
>>> devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon 
>>> attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed 
>>> to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in 
>>> order to manage photos.
> 
>>> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature 
>>> in the subsequent release of iTunes.
> 
>>> So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells 
>>> me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile).
> 
>>> Mark
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM
>>> To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the 
>>> iPhone seven
> 
>>> When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first 
>>> appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so 
>>> potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the 
>>> iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least.
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