Yes, Apple pay is noted with a visual logo at the point of sale.  It’s also 
mentioned as an option in most sites for stores that offer it.  You can of 
course ask.  Typically, if you see one of the new point of sale systems it’s 
available.


> On Sep 11, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you very much for this valuable explanation.
> 
> How does one know that a particular shop or business offers Apple pay?  Is 
> there a particular logo that could be identified?
> 
> Andrew
>> On 11 Sep 2016, at 14:02, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> From the user's perspective, you simply add your card to Apple Pay (this 
>> normally requires calling your bank once, to confirm it's you adding the 
>> card). Then, you either double press the Home button on the lock screen or 
>> the side button on Apple Watch, and hold the phone or watch to the reader in 
>> a business. You hear a chime and feel a vibration, and that's it, you've 
>> paid. Some businesses require an additional (pointless) step, such as a pin 
>> number or signature. On the web or in apps, you just use Touch ID to 
>> authenticate and that pays with the card stored in Apple Pay.
>> 
>> Technically, the engineering is rather complex, and I don't claim to 
>> understand it. Basically, though, you store your details on your device, 
>> where iCloud syncs them to your other devices using top security. On all iOS 
>> devices, card details get stored in a secure element in the phone which is 
>> impossible for hackers to access. When you pay with Apple Pay, those details 
>> are used internally, but not externally. Rather, iOS generates a one-time 
>> number at random that it sends to the card reader, which will never be used 
>> again. Thus, if a hacker breaks into the merchant's database of card 
>> transactions, they get only numbers that don't actually belong to your card, 
>> rather than your real card information. This also nullifies NFC listeners, 
>> since even if someone managed to intercept and record the transmission from 
>> your phone/watch to the reader, the information they get would do them no 
>> good.
>>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 08:49, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com 
>>> <mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I’ve read and thought quite a bit about using Apple pay in the UK.  I still 
>>> do not understand how it would work, both online and in shops.  Would 
>>> anyone mind describing it a little in practical terms?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>>> On 11 Sep 2016, at 02:36, Jonathan C. Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I will feel a lot safer with ApplePay!
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan Cohn 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I dono, maybe I'm just weird, but after in 2006 being frauded over 12K, I 
>>>>> am incredibly leery about this sort of thing.  Maybe I shouldn't be, 
>>>>> but... passwords... that's one thing, but I do not! and will not! store 
>>>>> credit card or any sort of financial banking stuff.  I think it's all 
>>>>> just in how much you trust.  Me?  I don't, but that's life.
>>>>> ---
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>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
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>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>>>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 6:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Safari & credit cards
>>>>> 
>>>>> I, too, use iCloud Keychain to store this kind of data. If you trust a 
>>>>> third-party, cross-platform solution like One Password or Last Pass, 
>>>>> iCloud is as good or better in terms of security. I have a strong 
>>>>> password and two factor authentication enabled, so feel as secure as any 
>>>>> technology can make me in using iCloud Keychain.
>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 18:42, Andrew McKay <awmc...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:awmc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I store credit cards in ICloud.  Keychain has industry best encryption. 
>>>>>> It is safe/safer than third party options.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 6:27 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Safari & credit cards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who’s comfortable storing their credit card info in Safari for autofill 
>>>>>> check out while shopping?  How secure is this on the Mac?  Any tips or 
>>>>>> advice for or against?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Traci
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