What’s wrong with the changes for mail on the I phone?  Even though I have not 
got my new phone yet and after updating my 6 Plus S playing with mail, at first 
I thought it a big deal but once I got the hang of it no problem at all.  I 
actually like it.

Just what I think.

Kawal.
> On 16 Sep 2016, at 02:23, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> It’s also counter productive to stagnate.
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com 
>> <mailto:che...@dogsc4me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> It seems counterproductive to force an up-to-date, streamlined 
>> functionality, such as iOS to emulate an older, difficult, clumsy system, 
>> namely OS.
>> If I'm not mistaken, there are more users of the iOS than the OS.  The iOS 
>> represents a gateway experience that the public has readily adopted.  Among 
>> the public are large numbers of blind and disabled users.
>> If this new mail modality represents Apple's future for iOS, I am going to 
>> be forced into seeking another phone and notebook alternative.  This mail 
>> issue mushroomed, full-blown, from an update promised to improve, to make 
>> simpler, to add features.
>> My experience has unfortunately invited an opposite opinion.  No release 
>> notes guided usage; it was just changed, just done and just not helpful or 
>> easily usable.
>> It feels as though there is a tug-of-war between some who learned on that 
>> clumsy, multi-step, multi-keyboard usage system and those using the iOs.  It 
>> is my opinion that the older, less easy OS needs to give place to the more 
>> modern, more intuitive, more usable iOs and not the other way round.
>> Each update adds extra complications to iOS in the name of improvements.  
>> There are a cadre of blind and sighted who, like the old friends at rehab, 
>> insist on speaking for us, the user/consumer blind, for our own good.
>> I recommend that all of us speak up in our own best interest or risk losing 
>> something that could and did change the world for us.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:27, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Correct, the way messages are handled has changed. Visually, it now looks 
>>> much more like mail on the mac. It also works more like macmail.
>>> 
>>> When in the main message list, individual messages are still handled the 
>>> same as in iOS 9. Threads are different. If one double-taps on a thread to 
>>> activate it, one goes into a browse thread view. In this view, 
>>> single-finger vertical flick moves up and down through the messages. 
>>> Single-finger horrizontal flicks read through the specific message. 
>>> Double-tap on the delete button at the bottom of the screen deletes all 
>>> messages in the thread. Three-finger horrizontal flick moves between 
>>> threads, threads and individual messages which do not belong to threads, 
>>> and individual messages. In other words, the same as single-finger 
>>> horrizontal flick in the message list screen.
>>> 
>>> If one wishes to delete only some messages from a thread, the thread must 
>>> be expanded. Whilst in the main message screen, single-finger vertical 
>>> flick to expand thread and double-tap. Now, the thread is unpacked and all 
>>> the messages in the thread are treated like non-thread messages. Now that I 
>>> have become used to this new system, I really like it. It took me a few 
>>> hours of frustration to become used to this new system.
>>> 
>>> I am hoping that, as Apple continues merging the behaviours of apps for iOS 
>>> and Mac, that we will see a full Mac-based iPad. I love touch-screen and 
>>> want my touch-screen Mac, or the equivalent.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 16/09/2016, at 10:09, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> message threading seems to have changed substantially in IOS10. I can no 
>>>> longer 3 finger flick from message to message in a thread, instead I have 
>>>> to use the “pre and next” message buttons. Also, the list of messages in a 
>>>> thread no longer appears, but instead I am thrown into the first message 
>>>> in the thread and then have to navigate between messages using the next 
>>>> and pre message buttons. What a screw up this is! is 3 finger flicking 
>>>> from message to message gone in ios10?
>>>> Also how about the thread message list? is that gone too? or are there 
>>>> some settings that need tweaking?
>>>> 
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