For one thing, braille support works fantastically. So much so, let me tell
you something.
I've got here an Alva Satalite 584 Pro. Tell me a screen reader in Windows
may I add, a modern screen reader, that works with it straight out of the
box, just by plugging it in via USB, not even plugging in the power cord,
and just letting it run bus powered. I guarantee you, you won't find one,
as it's too obsolete. Now, on the mac side with the most up to date version
of OSX, regardless the type of mac, ok, fine, newer systems, you'll need a
USB to USB C adapter, but big freakin' deal, they're like, what, 10, maybe
15 bucks on Amazon, if even that, and that's not even for just prime
membership pricing? Anyway, you plug it in, and boom! No need even to
start Voiceover back up to refresh things. It just works. Might I add,
seeing that OSX is based off of Darwin, which is based off Unix, oh, and
might I add, Linux is also based off of Unix, and being I know Linux uses
the BRLTTY interface, odds are, so does OSX. I don't know that for a fact,
so don't put proverbial words in my mouth that I never fully clamed, but if
I had to guess, I'd say it's incredibly likely that it's using that same
engine.
I find foreign language support to be freaking steller on the mac with
braille, etc. Look at all the new voices that came out with OSX once
Mavericks was released. Then, with El Capitan, we got even more, like Ava,
Alison, etc.
On a final note, you say that the Linux terminal doesn't really give you
good support for social media. This depends on what you're defining as
social media. If you're talking about Twitter, for example, then why not
use something like ttytter. And before anyone makes a real smarky smart
butt joke about that which would be totally disgusting, look at how that is
spelled, as I didn't say, t i t t e r. I said, t t y! t t e r.
My point is, I feel you have every right to your opinion, and though I
totally disagree with you, I'll stand for you to be able to speak your right
of opinion until the end. I don't think the mac's really degraded that much
though like you say you fear. Are there issues that need to be fixed, which
have been over and over reported? Yes. Is it totally irritating that Apple
hasn't fixed them? Yes. Absolutely it is! But, I don't know I'd go so
far as to say the mac is totally degrading. That's a bit overkill in my
probably by most observed, not, so humble opinion.
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From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: Apple kills my little mini with Sierra
Well, using Linux in the console, if you can get used to it, is very
accessible, but not moddern enough to be very productive in today's social
media stuff. Yes, the Mac accessibility is usable, but for how much longer?
How much more will it degrade? That's what I worry about.
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On Sep 28, 2016, at 5:53 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
Last shot at this for now. Show me another platform that rises above
all. The next best enterprise we could look to would be advances in
medical science. I will leave it at that. (smiles)
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On 9/28/2016 3:43 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
And unlike the big boys, you cannot improve Voiceover yourself. If
something doesn't work, sorry. Beg the developer to fix it, or find some
other program that works but may not work as well, such as Parallels, we
must use VMWare. Also, if you need better braille support, you have to
fiddle around and try and get BRLTTY to work, and even then it's just for
the terminal. All in all, openness has pretty big advantages.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 28, 2016, at 1:43 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
And unlike the big boys, all accessibility tools are not only included,
they work out of the box.
At the end of the day, the initial high cost is just that. Also unlike
the big boys and third party developers, there is no need of SMAs or
added costs to keep up.
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On 9/28/2016 11:38 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
No bloatware as far as I am concerned. With every single mac you
purchase, Apple Store or otherwise, comes no bloatware unlike the big
PC boys like Acer or HP.
On 28 Sep 2016, at 14:55, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bloteware? Um, no offense, but I've not seen any bloteware on the mac
with Sierra or the like. Care to elaborate?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "-dan d." <dandun...@gmail.com>
To: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com>
Cc: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Apple kills my little mini with Sierra
No, it is the apple gravy train at work with built in obsolescence as
a
marketing approach.
Pushing bloatware out each year is no excuse and no favor for the end
user.
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016, Alex Hall wrote:
You're not considering the resource needs of the OS itself. New
operating systems have animations, background tasks, throughput
needs, and other requirements that must be met or the OS will run
slowly and poorly. Apple has to decide where those problems become so
great that the OS would not be usable. Yes, they can disable certain
parts, like Airdrop on non-BT4.x machines, but eventually they'd be
disabling more than they'd leave.
It's like iPhones. When the 4 and 4s were getting upgrades, you'd
hear the same thing every year. People would scream about how their
phone didn't get the latest OS, and how terrible is it that Apple is
abandoning their customers, and on and on. (I'm not accusing you of
saying that.) Then, if Apple gave old phones an upgrade the next
year, people would complain about the stuttering animations, the
missing features, the slow response times, and so on. Apple can
either cut off old machines and get hammered about money-grubbing and
not being responsible for their customers, or they can support old
machines and get hammered about poor performance and not supporting
new features.
On Sep 28, 2016, at 06:31, Martin Brown <mbrown.bro...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have tried to download Sierra using my 2009 Mac Mini, but was
informed
that my device was not compatible. I am somewhat surprised at this
because
my Mini has 4GB of ram and a 500GB hard drive.
I say somewhat surprised, but not totally. Perhaps Apple has applied
the 7
year rule. Put simply the powers that be feel it is time for me to
join
Apple's gravy train and spend some cash in their direction. Not a
chance Mr
Cook. I shall run this little baby up to, and beyond, the point
where my
smoke alarms start going off.
I often hear the argument that Apple only use the very best
components in
their devices. Very good, but what is the point if the device has to
go on
the scrap heap half a century before the components might even
consider
giving up the ghost. Not a lot in my humble opinion. So much for
conservation and getting the best out of limited resources.
All the best from the last of the Neanderthals somewhere in the UK.
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