Simon, this is incorrect, the 13 inch air is also going to persist at least 
through the next update when ever that will be, it’s only the 11 inch that’s 
being dropped.

> On Oct 31, 2016, at 2:10 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> The mac book air is actually going as we know it, they are going to have 4 
> devices,
> 12 inch mac book,
> 13 inch mac book pro with normall keyboard 
> And then the 2 new pros with touch bar.
> 
> The air models is to be replaced by the entry level 13inch pro.
> 
> It was the comparing the size of the Mac book pro to the mac book air 13 that 
> they were getting at in the presentation.
> 
> Simon f
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 7:00 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro
> 
> According to the Apple presentation, the MacBook Air 13" will continue to be 
> sold. The MacBook Air 11" is being discontinued, and effectively replaced by 
> the MacBook 12". They also said the MacBook Pro 13" is a slightly smaller 
> than the MacBook Air 13".
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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>> On 31/10/2016, at 18:50, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Currently the mac book air 11 and 13 inch devices are available.
>> 
>> The mac book air is to be replaced by a 13 inch mac book pro with full 
>> keyboard  including function keys across the top fo the board.
>> 
>> Also increase in ram and HDD storage 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>> Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 8:26 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Don't worry, according to my local Apple Store the previous generation 13 
>> inch Macbook Pro is still offered, as well as the final 13 inch Macbook Air. 
>> What's new however is a version of the new 13 inch Macbook Pro without touch 
>> bar and touch ID. This they call the "entry level" 13 inch Macbook Pro.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 06:17, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all! How are you  all? I read the article about the new mac computers. 
>>> They sound cool, but I'm still  o use to it to my macbook Air. I'm thinking 
>>> in buying a new computr next year. I don'tthink  I'm ready for the new mac 
>>> computers yet? Are   they still going to sell the Macbook Pro 13 inches 
>>> with function keys and  16 ram? I have  a macbook air 11 inches, but since 
>>> it sis goign to be discontinued, are they going  to support it?  I look 
>>> forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
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>>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It's disappointing that one has to go to the 15" to get 16GB RAM and 
>>>> quad-core CPU, where the 13" Pro I've now has 16GB RAM, and current 13" 
>>>> ChromeBooks and Windows laptops have quad-core CPU. The new OLED Touch 
>>>> Panel Pro seems to have a 50% mark-up over previous Pros or other 
>>>> comparable laptops.
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 1:25 AM Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> Now for the air replacement and 2 to 3 weeks for the touchbar models.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>>> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 7:54 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I had to miss the end of the event.  When do the new MacBooks start 
>>>> shipping?  Thinking I might grab one of the current MBA models while I 
>>>> still can.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> They basically put a track pad with multi functions above the keys.  Think 
>>>> I will pass on the touch bar model, just go with the 12 inch macbook.
>>>> 
>>>> Kliph
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my mobile office
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This doesn’t really excite me as much as I thought.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Things I like are definitely the touch ID, I’ll have to try the touch bar 
>>>> to see if I like it, smaller and thinner is good but does this mean hotter 
>>>> as well, it’s already hot, and I wish we had more processing boost.  I 
>>>> also don’t like that for premium graphics now on the pro I have to pay 
>>>> extra.  If I pick a 15 inch model the extra powerful graphics should be 
>>>> included, not $100 extra.  Having 2 TB of storage is nice but not worth 
>>>> $800 more considering how much less expensive high end flash storage is on 
>>>> the 3rd party market.  And why why why, only 16 GB?  Give me a 32 option, 
>>>> I will pay more for that more willingly than for extra graphics power.  
>>>> For the price of the storage I’ll just build my own flash based NAS and 
>>>> store my files on the network.  I don’t feel I need to run right out and 
>>>> replace my MacBook mid 2015 that’s 2.8 turbo boost to 4.0 ghz quad core 
>>>> powered anyway.  Why not give me an 8 core option?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Apple, you need to start doing better, push the boundaries more and 
>>>> innovate more.  This incremental stuff is the game of lesser players.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 1:44 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/10/27/this-is-apples-new-oled-macbook-pro/
>>>> 
>>>> This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> “The Mac is more than a product to us. It’s a testament to everything we 
>>>> do and create at Apple,” said Apple CEO Tim Cook at today’s “Hello again” 
>>>> Mac keynote presentation as he unveiled long-expected updates to Mac 
>>>> notebooks. The new MacBook Pro has, as rumored, has an OLED touch bar 
>>>> replacing the row of function keys whose function changes from one app to 
>>>> another, called Touch Bar.
>>>> 
>>>> It comes in 13 and 15-inch flavors and Silver and Space Gray finishes, has 
>>>> 2x larger trackpad with ForceTouch haptic feedback, faster Intel chips and 
>>>> more.
>>>> 
>>>> The 13-inch MacBook Pro weighs in at three pounds, almost half a pound 
>>>> lighter than the previous generation. It’s also seventeen percent thinner 
>>>> and has 25 percent less volume than its predecessor.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The 15-incher weighs in at 4 pounds, is fourteen percent thinner and has 
>>>> twenty percent less volume. Both machines have a second-generation Touch 
>>>> ID with sapphire crystal protection integrated into the Power button. With 
>>>> a fingerprint scan, customers can authenticate Apple Pay purchases and 
>>>> authorize apps, like on the iPhone.
>>>> 
>>>> s
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, this week mark’s 25th anniversary of Apple’s first notebook, 
>>>> the PowerBook, which defined the modern notebook with a matrix-dot 
>>>> display, keyboard-forward design creating a room for a trackpad and other 
>>>> features. 
>>>> 
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