They don't output carbon inherently. Carbon sources are almost all
living or fozzel past living sources. They do output other material that
do have an effect, in particular blocking of sunlight. And to the question
in particular, yes such things are well known and plugged into prediction
models.
A theory is not unproven facts, the germ theory of disease is an example.
A theory is an explanitory model that accounts for a large amount of facts.
It is not a hypothesis which is what you are suggesting.
On Thu, 10 Nov
2016, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
Hi Todor,
Heres a "proverb" that applies here!
Figures don't lie, but liars figure!
Do you have statistics on the average carbon out put from a Volcano?
With out these stats plugged into the Global Warming model the "theory" is
flawed to begin with.
BTW a Theory is a unproven fact! :)
Unless you have that data how can you blame carbon on man caused pollution?
FYI
I remember the "ice age is coming rap"
At least with the ice age coming they could keep their "cool aid" at the proper
temperature! ;)
Scott is absolutely correct again!
Chuck
On Nov 10, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Todor Fassl wrote:
Here is the proof that global warming is being caused by human activity:
Fact 1. We know absolutely that certain gasses in a planet's atmosphere cause the planet
to heat up. This can be explained through the laws of physics and can be tested
experimentally. This is called the "Greenhouse Effect".
Fact 2. We know that humans have put an enormous amount of greenhouse gas into
our planet's atmosphere. This is carbon that has been locked up in the earth's
crust for millions of years. Here is a link to a web page that lists the top
oil producing countries. I am going to say it adds up to more than a hundred
million barrels of oil per day. That's right -- a hundred million barrels per
day. There are also millions of tons of coal and natural gas being mined every
day.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2241rank.html
Fact 3. Many scientists from all over the world have calculated how much effect
the greenhouse gases we have emitted would have. Those calculations, often
called climate models, are proven to be accurate because they can predict
things like droughts and floods to a degree that cannot be accounted for by
chance. And these climate models consistently show that we have indeed put
enough greenhouse gas into our atmosphere to cause the planet to heat up.
Now, those 3 facts taken together *prove* that global warming is being caused by human
activity. This stuff about volcanos is what is called "fuzzy thinking". It's
akin to a person defending themselves in court by saying the police can't prove that the
guy he shot didn't just happen to drop dead from some other reason right before the
bullet hit him. It is not my job to disprove every lame idea a skeptic might propose.
The 3 facts I gave above prove that global warming is being caused by humans. Where is
the flaw?
On 11/10/2016 10:46 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
Hi Scott,
Your absolutely 100% correct again!
Heres just 1 thing that blows "climate change" formally known as "global
warming" out of the water!
How much carbon does a average volcano spew out in just 1 major eruption?
Can anybody stop a volcano from erupting?
My Daughter who holds a "Ph.D. in Applied Physics: could shed some more light
on this but at this point the only thing that would keep this on topic is that She
uses a Mac book pro! LOL
Talk soon
Chuck
On Nov 10, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Who boy we should move this over to the off topic list because I could blow
huge holes in your global warming position. Scientists did infect fudge factor
data and I can show you hard space weather data that indicates similar warming
trends on other planets.;)
That doesn?t mean I think we should be pumping crap in to the air and sea but
the global warming deal is just a scheme to enrich a few. The next time
Leonardo Decrapio tells me I need to use less energy while he?s flying around
in his Gulfstream G5-50 burning more energy per hour than I do in my life I?ll
smack him with a trout.
On Nov 10, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Todor Fassl <fassl....@gmail.com> wrote:
The USA has a long, disgraceful history of preventing minorities from voting
via poll tests. So I know making people prove they know *something* before they
vote is not practical. It would be nice though. If you ever thought global
warming was a hoax, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. I don't mean if you ever
hoped it wasn't true. I mean if you ever believed scientists were deliberately
making it up, then you should never again be allowed to vote. Well, maybe that
is a bit harsh. You should have to prove you have learned your lesson though.
On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
One thing I appreciate about countries like Australia is that they
recognize that those who choose not to participate in the voting process
hurt the country as a whole.
So, they did and I believe still do, require you to vote or pay a fine.
The choice to be willfully ignorant is often not something that a city,
county or country can afford.
I respect that many might not have enjoyed the menu options, but
choosing to skip the democratic process is especially damaging where,
like stateside, it is more of an electoral college election than a
general public mandate anymore.
Speaking only for myself, it seems time to give voters a clear
incentive to educate themselves about those issues. fine want to stay
home enough to pay a fine for that right?
Kare
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Todor Fassl wrote:
But why? Why should people who know nothing about the issues vote?
Just repeating your opinion that they should vote is no answer.
It's like saying you should get brain surgery even if you're not sure
you have something wrong with your brain. Just sign yourself up for
random medical treatments, who knows, some of them might even help.
Instead of picking someone at random, if you haven't studied the
issues, you should STAY HOME!
repeating that they should vote is NO answer.
On 11/08/2016 05:19 PM, Robin wrote:
I Disagree
Voting is a Right & EveryOne should Vote
No Matter What iff Eligible
At 02:26 PM 11/8/2016, you wrote:
I don't think people should vote just for the sake of voting. That's
how bad guys get elected -- ignorant voters put them in office. If
you
havent studied the issues, please stay home.
On 11/08/2016 05:50 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
For our friends in the US,
Totally apolitical here and please please let???s keep it
that way. Get out there and vote today, do your civic duty
regardless of your party / candidate / beliefs just get out and
have
your voice heard if you haven???t already.
Uber is offering a $20 credit for a trip to your polling
place, Lyft has a similar deal with up to $45 in credits, and
Google
also has the means to arrange a ride for you and provide some
credits
to get to your closest polls. the parties are offering rides and
volunteer services as well.
Also, make sure you take advantage of the deals available
today to voters. Keep that ???I voted?? sticker and Krispy >
Cream
will give you a free donut, McDonalds and Seven Eleven are giving
free coffee, and many small businesses are having election day
promotions that include discounts or out right freebies.
Remember that many service men and women have fought and
died
for your right to vote so let???s not let them down and make
sure > > we
take advantage of our most powerful expression of our freedom, our
right to vote. Now get out there and be safe everyone.
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