If you want to take this a step further, just install the TV guide app on your phone, find the channel you want, and see what is currently on. That way when you go to the direct TV now app, and it reads a show, you will know what channel it is. For me, I know what comes on most channels, so not a deal breaker for me. To me that is not lowering my standards, but dealing with what I have at present, JMO. > On Dec 10, 2016, at 3:01 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Brian, > The answer to that question depends on your definition of excess ability. If, > for instance, you expect to be able to go through the guide and know what > channel you were looking at without having to know which channel any given > program is on, then it is not accessible. The channel logos are pictures, and > they have no text associated with them. So, this does not meet my definition > of excess ability, nor does it meet anyone else's definition of accessibility > who has anything to do with standards. However, as several others will > undoubtedly chime in and tell you, if you're willing to work for it, or you > have a great knowledge of what programs are on Quinn and on which channel, > then the app can certainly be used. You can also add channels to favorites. > Then you just have to memorize the order of your favorites, because you still > won't see channel names. There's also the alphabetical list of channels that > was posted, but I assume that you would then have to know which of those were > in the package you had, since I also assume that only those channels to which > you subscribe will actually show up in your guide. And you will have to > memorize the order of those channels. Good luck with over 100. So for me at > least, the guide is not helpful. The search feature works. You can search for > programs. You can search for channels. There is a network's page, but it is > useless, since all of the networks on that page our pictures. So VoiceOver > doesn't see them. The only way I know that this is true is because I also > have the app on an android device, where each picture is identified as logo. > Not too helpful. So, with work, and depending on what you want to do, you can > certainly use the app, and the price is right with all those channels for > just $35. But accessible it is not, not by anyone's definition that might > involve any sort of standard. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 10, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: >> >> Sorry if I missed the beginning of this but how is the accessibility of the >> channel listings on both the iPhone and AppleTV? Thanks, >>> On Dec 10, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Limited access unless you want to pay seven dollars a month. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Dec 10, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What about the CBS go App on the Apple TV? Not sure if that bumps in to >>>> the same problem as the other streaming options but it might be a decent >>>> work around. >>>> >>>>> On Dec 10, 2016, at 6:56 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, thus far we have tried to indoor antennas, one of which was >>>>> amplified. No difference. It's frustrating, because there are two >>>>> stations supposedly coming from essentially the same location, one of >>>>> them we get. The other we don't. The one we got, Fox, my husband and I >>>>> would both gladly dump in favor of getting the CBS station. I think he's >>>>> going to try one more antenna. And if that doesn't work, will either put >>>>> something up on the roof or forget it. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Another advantage of over the air digital reception is it isn’t >>>>>> compressed. Most apartments and condo groups will not put up to much of >>>>>> a fight if you want to put up an antenna or dish any more. Back when >>>>>> the communications act was first passed I had an home owners association >>>>>> go to war with me about putting up an antenna. I was originally going >>>>>> to put up a small 8 element Channel Master, nothing nuts and in a fixed >>>>>> position since all the towers I wanted to hit were in the same place in >>>>>> San Francisco. They kept threatening me and trying to tell me what to >>>>>> do which if you haven’t guessed doesn’t really work with me and because >>>>>> I was a ham operator I went all PRB1 on them and put up a 100 foot tower >>>>>> with individual beam antennas that required an industrial rotator. I >>>>>> also put lights on the top and became active in one of the local civil >>>>>> preparedness groups. I had the outside of my property looking like an >>>>>> NSA listening post. I also put in a 20 foot dish that I ended up >>>>>> building a home brew radio telescope out of. I made sure the dish >>>>>> blocked out the sun if I pointed it correctly to my neighbor’s back yard >>>>>> and pool because he was the association president. I was going to put >>>>>> solar panels in on top of that which in California is the only >>>>>> justification you can use to cut down trees and totally rip out all the >>>>>> landscaping that would have blocked my sun exposure but they caved >>>>>> first. Ever since that time my property managers have been more than >>>>>> accommodating of the very little roof space I’ve needed which in the end >>>>>> accounted for an 18 inch dish and a small panel antenna for fixed >>>>>> wireless. Good times! >>>>>> One thing you might look at are some of the better indoor antennas. You >>>>>> don’t need to mount anything and some come with preamps built in. The >>>>>> good news with digital signals you don’t need perfect reception like you >>>>>> do with analog. As long as you’re getting the data stream above the >>>>>> noise level sufficiently things will work just fine. No ghosting or >>>>>> multi path to worry about. You might have a small device you put in a >>>>>> window or if you go whole hog something you sit in your attic and you >>>>>> can use RF splitters to drop the signal in to your existing dish wiring >>>>>> so you won’t have to pull new wire. They make some models that strap on >>>>>> to your existing dish install and are barely visible. Even the good ol >>>>>> rabbit ears will work in many settings. Good luck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That works, depending on the terrain, your location, and the location >>>>>>> of the stations you need to get. I live close to all of the stations >>>>>>> supposedly, but can't get CVS for love or money, unless of course, >>>>>>> maybe if I had an outside antenna way up on the roof. Not going to >>>>>>> happen. >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 10:35 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli >>>>>>>> <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just get an ota like the mobileaf >>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just to add to what Clifton said, if the channels in your area are >>>>>>>>> not directly owned by the network, you probably won't get them. For >>>>>>>>> instance, none of our local channels are available. >>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> it all depends on your region. I live in the tampa FL area, and I >>>>>>>>>> get fox, and that is it. Although there are some NBC shows that are >>>>>>>>>> on demand like chicago fire, chicago PD, and some ABC shows too. >>>>>>>>>> CBS is rumored to being close to signing on, but who knows when that >>>>>>>>>> will happen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 8:47 PM, David Tanner >>>>>>>>>>> <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how to get access to your local channels in the >>>>>>>>>>> area where you live using DIRECTV NOW question >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David Tanner >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From my iPhone 6 S >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 6:19 AM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, got the live chat to work on the direct TV now support page. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The rep told me that they didn’t know how to get voiceover to >>>>>>>>>>>>> work with there app, and I told them there was an entire section >>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically for this. The rep flat out ignored that comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also said there is no phone number, they are only a streaming >>>>>>>>>>>>> service, and live chat is the only way to talk to them. He did >>>>>>>>>>>>> give me a link to access the channel lineups, and told me they >>>>>>>>>>>>> would attempt to fix the voiceover issues in the future. Like I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have stated before, the app is very usable, once you get use to >>>>>>>>>>>>> it. On another note, direct TV now app now has a 72 hour rewind >>>>>>>>>>>>> option on select channels. I know sling TV had this, and it >>>>>>>>>>>>> worked well, I just saw this update last night, or this morning, >>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever time you consider night and day, so I haven’t had a >>>>>>>>>>>>> chance to try it out yet. 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