Eric,

I just want to correct one thing. The elimination of the ISP can't collect 
traffic rule here in the US essentially does not change anything. Congress can 
not actually shutdown entire rules without Agency changes unless they are brand 
new rules. The privacy rules were I believe supposed to go into effect in June, 
and don't forget even if those rules had gone into effect Google would still be 
collecting and selling your data. In fact, be wary of any free or very 
inexpensive internet based service, software does not just get created out of 
thin air, companies pay good money for developers, and disk space costs 
something too. 

In fact one reason, congress did not like the new FCC rules was that they only 
provided a that no equivalent protections of privacy could be leveraged by the 
FCC over search engines, since the FCC only regulates the pipes and the FTC 
would regulate other internet services.

Please forgive any specific inaccuracies in this post, I am going off of 
materials I read in tidbits.com and severalpodcasts that I listened to over a 
week ago.
 
                Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> well,
> depending on whether you use a free or paid service will make a difference in 
> both service quality and setup. I use a paid service myself. It's $7 a month 
> and is fairly reliable. I have tried some free services, but they are mostly 
> hit and miss and are not always as secure. the service I use is located here: 
> www.privateinternetaccess.com and they have both client software or you can 
> setup manually. Unfortunately, their cliente for the mac is not accessible, 
> so I use a manual setup in the preferences pane. It works reasonably well. I 
> have also done the manual setup in windows 7.  This has allowed me to be able 
> to have dropbox and a few other services when I am behind a firewall (like 
> over at Voc rehab) THeir IT folks have gotten on my case more than once, 
> until I pointed out to them that their own policy does not forbid the use of 
> a vpn (it does, however, forbid the use of sharing services that are 
> unprotected on their networks).  I even had one of them try to break into my 
> machine (at my request) and they found it well nigh impossible. I had the 
> firewall on that win 7 box setup so that only traffic on the VPN was allowed 
> in or out and everything else got dropped. That took a lot of heavy 
> customization on my part to make it work.
> 
> so, if you want to run a VPN, which these days is pretty much going to be a 
> must now that ISP's aren't required to keep your info private, it is highly 
> recommended.. btw, a lot of the free vpn services are not all that bandwidth 
> friendly. thats why I use the service I do. they can support up to 20 
> Mbits/sec. for what I do, thats a must have.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Apr 9, 2017, at 9:17 AM, E.T. wrote:
> 
>>  The recent discussion about VPN got me interested but I was not ready to 
>> look into it at the time.
>> 
>>  I know the setup is done in Network prefs but where does one get 
>> information on VPN servers etc.? Thanks.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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