Hey Scott, Agreed, this is not a place to discuss about these things.
I'll shout you a mail > On 25/04/2017, at 3:47 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, we’ve probably strayed off topic for the list but I find what you’re > talking about absolutely compelling. I can see where you might apply your > calculations to large complex data analysis like environmental modeling for > example or looking for chaotic patterns. The thing that interests me about > quantum computing is the non locality effects and the ability to attack > problems from a multiverse perspective trying all possible computations and > all probabilities in a single quantum event. But now you’re pressing the > edges of my understanding firmly so you’re probably much more versed in these > things than I am. Your basically talking long range about turning > predictions and future telling from guesses to almost certainties among other > seriously fundamentally changing capabilities. > Robotics is another area I’m interested in. As you may know I > experiment in a small way with autonomous flight right now using quadcopter > platforms as a base. Combining these with LIDAR, SONAR and machine vision to > study and self navigate from one GPS point to another. I’m to the point > where I can fly around a school yard and navigate through areas like the > playground and batting cages.;). (Big thank you to the folks at Milberry > Street School) > > Feel free and contact me off list and or we can exchange messenger / > communication IDs of your choice. > > Thanks for the food for thought! > > Scott > > >> On Apr 24, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Scott, >> >> I think the cutting edge is in applications that affect the world, not those >> that affect pure data itself. The normal classifiers as you say are: >> -sensory (vision, touch, localised temperature, pressure, captured >> environmentals) >> -model or data model, where all your data and features are. The contexts and >> semantics trees, the pixels that make the vision understand edges and >> contours, rates of them, velocity of movements and recalls. It's a massive >> power set of matrices that work with each other through GPU and node >> servers.. >> -Action: This is where your logic space makes decisions, depending on the >> controls used on them, such as understanding what distribution of a certain >> value is across the entire feature set. Is it obviously and unconditionally >> true, meaning constant, or is it variable like a range between -1 and 1? And >> how many of them, in the aggregate, agree to that decision? one of the >> algorithms for this one is Support Vector Machines. >> >> It's more of a composition rather than a specific service, that creates that >> service or A.I powered algorithm that makes it work so well. >> >> The absolute cutting edge of robotics to my view, is quantum computing. To >> be able to collapse and re-assign decisions into stacks of information that >> can be simultaneously calculated in a constant time of 1 per global pulse by >> randomisation assignments which are structured, is what will flip everything >> up, and quantum computing will stop the industry from postponing the >> inventions which are out there, not funded but worked on, with associations >> and organisations. >> >> I would be happy to exchange FBs so I can send you some robotics articles >> and twitter is _oseyeris. I'd like you to be an initial beta tester for >> something I've worked on for a year. It has a 3D audio engine and is easy to >> use for OSX and IOS. It's called TheTakeOut. >> >> Cheers, >> >> >>> On 23/04/2017, at 6:19 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Wow there’s a lot of great points here. >>> >>> I’m curious, as someone who’s heavily involved in AI who do you think is >>> the absolute cutting edge right now outside the classified space. Maybe >>> you could rank a little the major publicly visible efforts like Watson >>> verses Google verses Amazon and such. Who makes you think wow that’s >>> really impressive? We know Apple in many ways is behind the times but >>> who’s way ahead? >>> >>> Also, do you have any published papers or anything I could read of your >>> work you’ve impressed me with your response and I’d like to learn more >>> about where you’re coming from. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Scott >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 23, 2017, at 3:54 AM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I wanted to chime in for a few points: >>>> >>>> Apple is dispersing itself a bit too much. What's next on the line? A >>>> Lavazza partnership for a coffee machine? Or maybe some jogging shoes with >>>> mag safe laces? Better yet, a Mars lander capsule with an enhanced version >>>> of voice over? Wait, the latter is something they should aim for, shoot to >>>> mars projects, not attempts at capturing consumer markets outside of what >>>> they do best. >>>> >>>> In terms of the A.I, as a daily A.I programmer, I'm not impressed at all. >>>> Why does siri forget a name I call all the time when it worked until then? >>>> What is the use of asking me the same thing all the time, when siri should >>>> know that I know the command better and faster than it can respond? And >>>> what about putting some of the phrases together, and assist in performance >>>> driven ways, which is the one major reason why I would like an assistant >>>> as a blind user? Wait, this bleeds into all users anyway, and google now + >>>> alexia are taking cloud based and data centric approaches way higher. To >>>> be fair, Apple's frameworks are increasingly better, and the sheer breadth >>>> of things you can do with their libraries is the model they have taken, to >>>> create an eco system where the user can become one of the earners, and >>>> participate in Apple's success, for some, along with their own. And taking >>>> 30% off their sales. >>>> >>>> But the fact is that Apple has lost in not using the data available to >>>> them, and this comes to one thing Apple distinguishes itself from the >>>> other players: The OS and hardware setup is a help, not a listener. >>>> Entertainment, not a commodity, like the advertising model Google or FB >>>> take. And this is the crux of their problem, which is a societal question: >>>> how much are you privvy to your own circle, and how much is the public >>>> image and lifestyle? Do both agree that there are worldly matters that >>>> require engineering, and thus pro connectivity to everything? OSX connects >>>> to Linux, windows, and its programming language swift is now ported to >>>> linux. Integration with python and other languages is amazing, and it is c >>>> based. When you say Apple's interface is easy to use, it is and it >>>> accelerates as you learn your key commands. >>>> >>>> But in this era of A.I, where it faults is the assistant's capacity to >>>> really assist, not be a gimmick with far few too many things to offer, >>>> despite how it markets it, which I find a bit insulting at times, knowing >>>> what the world of A.I is currently able to do, in academic circles I >>>> frequent daily. >>>> >>>> >>>> Disgruntled but happy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 23/04/2017, at 4:11 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Amazon's speech recognition assistant. Works well in the US and some >>>>> places in Europe. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 23/04/2017, at 10:44, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry but what is this Alexa? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2017 6:33 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: And here's an example of why Apple is losing the digital >>>>>> assistant game >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Scott. While I'm a loyal Apple customer, I completely agree with you >>>>>> about Siri. Siri is one of the reasons I bought my Amazon Echo Dot. >>>>>> Alexa is just a better assistant than Siri is. I mean, with the Dot, >>>>>> Alexa gets better and better every day with the number of skills that >>>>>> get added each day. With Siri, you have to wait until Apple updates her >>>>>> with every iOS major release. This was acceptible in 2011, but when >>>>>> Amazon and Google are beating you in the AI department in 2017, maybe >>>>>> its time that Apple take notice. I'll still buy Apple products and use >>>>>> Siri to make calls, text people, and find out what song I'm listening to >>>>>> on the radio, but that's all she's good for. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shawn >>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>>> P.S. Scott, that was a good article about the Google Home. It's just too >>>>>> bad that I can't talk to the Google Assistant on my phone or my computer >>>>>> like I can with Alexa using Reverb. I know that you can talk to her with >>>>>> Google Allo, but with that app she doesn't speak her answers back to >>>>>> you. For that, Alexa still wins. Also, you can talk to her in the Google >>>>>> Search app, but that functionality only works for searches. I just wanna >>>>>> have fun with it, not search for things. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 5:27 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, Apple brought us Siri and we had hi hopes but they’ve let it fall >>>>>>> flat on it’s face and are being schooled by Amazon and especially >>>>>>> google. Let’s look at the announcements recently from the 3 companies. >>>>>>> Alexa continues to make strides with additional integration across >>>>>>> multiple platforms and expanded languages and ability to parse complex >>>>>>> sentences, Google takes things even farther allowing their units to >>>>>>> distinguish between users by their voices, provides tight integration >>>>>>> with hundreds of data sources and literally adds features on a biweekly >>>>>>> basis, and Apple, what’s Apple announcing. Siri now can read your >>>>>>> what’s app messages. (Big freaking whoop Apple). Google announces >>>>>>> multiple voice recognition and the addition of real neural net >>>>>>> technology and Apple can now read text messages from a 3rd party app. >>>>>>> They have to do better. The iPhone is such a good phone in every way >>>>>>> but then you’re stuck with Siri. 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