Simon, I bet you’re using SIP and don’t know it.:). If you’re using VOLTE on that phone that’s SIP underneath. All they do is set up a SIP session over the LTE data channel and set the QOS appropriately.
> On May 14, 2017, at 3:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > HI Janina, > > Yeah > I've gotten rid of the landline phone for my home and just use my mobile, > With a geographical landline number connected to my mobiles phone, > > That means if my mother or someone rings me I'll get the call on my mobile, > The idea of using sip just means I've got another phone I have to worry about > and the mobile is one only doing the job of all. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Saturday, 13 May 2017 7:40 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra? > > This is correct, Simon. It's a problem both both SIP gateway services, and > also SIP hardware devices. > > Just in the past half year I've picked up a Snom D715 handset which has > IPv6 support. It, and the Snom 820 series, and possibly current Digium > handsets are the only ones currently supporting IPv6, afaik. Notably missing > here is Polycom. > > Meanwhile, I can report my Snom D715 is working perfectly well over IPv6 > only. It's my desk handset sitting a few inches to my left as I type this > email. > > My only complaint is that it's really hard to learn how to manage calls on > it, because its buttons change functions based on circumstances--all of which > is, of course, uselesslly displayed on the phone's screen. > > It is a Linux based phone, so I've toyed with the notion of trying to hack in > and compile something to make it talk its screen--something like Speakup > perhaps. > > Janina > > Simon Fogarty writes: >> I've not been in a situation to use SIP but did wonder about it for a >> while, >> >> Anyway is it not just a case of the SIP providers haven't yet updated to >> allow for IP V6 intergration or useage? >> >> They're going to have to sooner rather than later >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 3:38 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra? >> >> I smell a business opportunity. Some googling seems ti indicate the >> provider you listed and someone called flowroute. THere’s tons of >> documentation on the advantages of SIP over IPv6 and lots of people >> convincing you to do it, especially on the enterprise side but no >> providers offering the service.:) >> >> >> Interesting your comments on fail2ban. Incredible PBX comes with both V4 >> and V6 rules included and it looked to me like fail2ban could update either >> but your unix mojo is strong so I’ll differ to you on that subject. >> >>> On May 11, 2017, at 11:24 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Scott: >>> >>> Just a quick point to your email ... >>> >>> I believe fail2ban only works with IPv4. >>> >>> >>> Personally, if I could disable listening for incoming SIP on Ipv4, >>> I'd do so in a heartbeat. But for reasons I don't understand, the >>> world of SIP to PSTN gateways is entirely IPv4. Therefore, I have no >>> choice but to listen for SIP on 4, since I do want to be able to >>> call to, and recieve calls from, the PSTN. >>> >>> >>> Caveat to the above ... There is one provider that supports SIP over >>> 6, >>> namely: >>> >>> http://callwithus.com >>> >>> Friends who know their stuff have had good experience with >>> them--clearly on a personal level. However, they don't support LNP, >>> which kills a move to Call with Us for me as I don't want to >>> reconfigure with all new phone numbers. >>> >>> Every few months I cast about for a SIP gateway service supporting >>> 6, but I've been disappointed to date. >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Scott Granados writes: >>>> Ok, few points here. >>>> >>>> First, as a network engineer, everyone I work with and know prefers V6 by >>>> a long shot. The finding of individual addresses is no harder on V6 than >>>> V4, you can display your Mac table the same way. The routers usually have >>>> separate V4 and V6 RIBS as well so your V4 doesn’t mix with your V6 and >>>> your MPLS VPN routes are yet again separate etc. You use the same BGP and >>>> filtering mechanisms as V4 so that translates pretty nicely. >>>> One thing you can do in the notation is all the 0 fields can be >>>> represented with 2 :: marks. Something like >>>> 2001:4860:4860:0000:0000:0000:0000:1001 can be expressed as >>>> 2001:4860:4860::1001. The zeros need to be in contiguous blocks however >>>> and you can only do the substitution once per address block. >>>> The auto configuration feature is nice also. You don’t necessarily >>>> need to run a DHCP server to have machines self address which is very nice. >>>> I’ve never had problems banning IP addresses in V6 form but I’ve used >>>> more advanced methods like RTBH using URPF loose mode and changing the >>>> next hop to null 0 by using BGP communities or with BGP flow spec where >>>> you craft a firewall filter based on the specific address and publish that >>>> to your edge routers as part of the BGP session. >>>> >>>> >>>> Fail2Ban is quite good. My understanding is though it works with IP >>>> tables so you’d use both. When fail2ban jails an IP it drops an entry in >>>> the specific section of the IP tables rules. >>>> >>>> Admittedly though, I am a network engineer first and a decent unix guy >>>> second but my strongest skills are around routing and switching so I could >>>> be a little off with the systems level stuff. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On May 11, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Daniel Chavez <topdog2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good day list, >>>>> Most System Admin's, myself included, prefer IPV4 because it's a lot of >>>>> what most provider's support, plus tracking down machine's that utilize >>>>> IPV4 tends to be less stress on us. >>>>> As far as IPV6 masks, they come in the form of >>>>> letter:number:lettter:number, so banning them can be quite difficult, if >>>>> not next to impossible, in certain situations. >>>>> I do both Network and server administration and have been doing so for at >>>>> least 10 to 15 year's, and I can say that by using either IPTables and/or >>>>> Fail2ban, they both have strength's and weaknesses, though if it were me, >>>>> I like fail2ban myself. As IPTables gets the job done, it's rarely >>>>> updated at least on CentOS, while Fail2ban happens to be updated quite a >>>>> bit more often. On cPanel server's, especially, Fail2ban ties into IP >>>>> tables while also providing it's own level of protection which I find to >>>>> be nice. >>>>> If I had a client server I, too, could pull a fail2ban config file, but I >>>>> don't have access right now to a server. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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