You’re absolutely right, it would be like putting that Mac in the hands of my 
mother.  You don’t need that much horsepower to play solitaire and crossword 
puzzles.

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Don't get me wrong, for someone like you, it makes total sense.  But for 
> someone like me, it absolutely doesn't.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It will be for this user but I run a lot of virtual machines for network 
>> simulation so I can justify it and also take it as a deduction on the 
>> business side.  I suspect you’re right though that some would buy a machine 
>> like this for personal use. 
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:05 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, I don't know.  It probably will be for someone out there. :)
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 6:58 AM, Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That is exactly the point…The iMac Pro with up to 18 cores of processing 
>>>> power is for a power user—such as those who would create audio and/or 
>>>> video.
>>>> 
>>>> It isn’t a personal computer for the average user.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, let me re-state: No way will I spend $10,000 on a Mac! :)  As someone 
>>>>> else said, if I ran a professional studio of some sort, or for some other 
>>>>> reason had those financial resources and the need for such a high end 
>>>>> machine, then maybe.  But neither is the case for me.  $10,000 for a 
>>>>> personal computer is ridiculous.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:04 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A mac book pro but an iMac Pro.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:03 AM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No way would I spend 10 Grand on a Mac book Pro. Only way I would buy 
>>>>>> that if I had some type of major video production company. At least you 
>>>>>> know it should be future proof bro.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/6/17, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Scott, your crazy dude,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah I'd like one but still I'm not that crazy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When the pricing comes out check out the apple.co.nz site and price 
>>>>>>> the fully spec'd iMac Pro.
>>>>>>> Yor 10K dollars is nothing compared to our pricing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 8:43 AM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> BTW, what do you think of the iMac pro?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mine will probably cost over 10,000 but I’m going to get one.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My IMac has a round circle type of cable in the middle of the 
>>>>>>>> machine.  Is that not a Mac Safe?  I thought it was.
>>>>>>>>> On 5 Jun 2017, at 00:57, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Kawal,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'd be very surprised if your Imac had a magsafe power adaptor  as 
>>>>>>>>> well,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I work with iMacs from 2009 to 2016 models and all of them run from 
>>>>>>>>> mains power with a single cable into the middle of the back of the 
>>>>>>>>> machine, They have not to this point made an iMac with magsafe power 
>>>>>>>>> connectivity
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal 
>>>>>>>>> Gucukoglu
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 5 June 2017 3:33 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I must apologise for giving you the wrong information.  My MacMini 
>>>>>>>>> does not have a Mac Safe.  I got confused as my I Mac does.  I have 
>>>>>>>>> plugged that MacMini in more than two years ago and have not really 
>>>>>>>>> unplugged it much so I forgot.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Jun 2017, at 11:59, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That’s interesting. My 2012 model has a figure of 8 lead. i.e. It 
>>>>>>>>>> is fed 240V whereas, I’m guessing the voltage is dropped 
>>>>>>>>>> externally. Or does the magsafe deliver mains voltage?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As you suggest the Mini is a great little machine.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Jun 2017, at 11:43, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My MacMini is a 2014 model.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 Jun 2017, at 23:30, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> What year Mac Mini has a magsafe power connection?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 Jun 2017, at 18:25, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A few months ago I went to the Apple store with my father as I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convinced him to purchase the 7 Plus I phone which he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that was done, I went to look at the most expensive Apple 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch which i liked but wasn't going to spend that kind of money 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get the Apple watch but may get an apple watch next time if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the third Gen is better than the second Gen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I went to have a look at the Macbook Air with the touch 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bar on it.  I thought it was a bit crap as I knew it wouldn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the Mac Safe plug on it.  I love my I Mac and MacMini as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both have the Mac Safe plug.  I hate it that Apple seem to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting rid of their Macsafe stuff.  I don't know when I will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> purchase another Apple computer as both my computers are going 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong and as long as I can run the latest software on them then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's just fine for me.  However, one of these days we won't be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to run the latest software so then it will be time to buy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> another IMac and MacMini as I love both set ups!  When ever I do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, I'll max out the memory and Gig of ram because I will be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 Jun 2017, at 12:35, Scott Granados 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hate to say this about apple but I’m not going to give 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone a pass where it’s not deserved either.  I’ve been using 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 2016 latest model laptop with the touch bar and finger print 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> censor now for several weeks and I need to say, I hate it.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s something I thought I wouldn’t say but the fact is I do.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reasons are as follows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  The touch bar triggers when your fingers are on the row of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physical keys below.  The finger print censor also triggers 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siri and also fires when you touch the keys below.  You also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end up starting Siri when you want to start or stop voice over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  The light bar doesn’t work the same in virtual machines as it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does on the Mac proper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  The ports are a joke.  Everything is USB-C which renders all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my previous adapters and connectors useless.  The power cable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now uses USB-C instead of mag safe (which I like better).  The 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightning ports on all the phones and other devices feel just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like USB-C with a slight size difference so I’m for ever using 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wrong cable on the wrong port.  All your included cables 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with your devices are USB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0 the older standard and don’t fit in the USB-C port, you can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get adapters but they aren’t included.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  While I like the lightning port for headphones now instead of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.5 MM jack, the new laptop doesn’t include a lightning port so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have to use different headphones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  The things I do like are the battery life is very good, it’s 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very fast and the new processors do very well running virtual 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> images.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it’s just not fun to use.  My mid 2015 model is so much 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more enjoyable to type on and all my cables work.  Apple your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptops this year are a miss in my opinion.  I won’t go back to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows but I bet I could be convinced to try chrome books or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something else.
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