Hello,

This login is a very limited system screen and though it sounds similar to 
VoiceOver it is not VoiceOVer It will say user name until you enter a legit 
user name something like "john" or "joncohn" and hit enter once your user name 
has been accepted it will say password. If you enter the correct password then 
in a few seconds you will have all the normal functionality available or else 
it will say username or password incorrect. 

My experience has been I have to type in all the characters of my username I 
have never found a way to do this with arrow keys and certainly the VO style 
keys I have found to do nothing.


                Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:14 AM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My sighted help could only access the password field when VO was switched 
> off, but if I switch vo again, not even the sighted person can navigate to 
> the username or password field.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 Jun 2017, at 13:07, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Did your sighted friend see the password field? 
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 
>>> 9. jun. 2017 kl. 21.54 skrev Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> I did switch on voice-over, I even tried and to switch on and off a couple 
>>> of times. I'll try again maybe I missed something.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 09 Jun 2017, at 21:41, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't used FileVault, but have been thinking about doing it for a 
>>>> while now.  So I have a question about John's post.  Do you choose a 
>>>> username, or is it assigned?  If assigned, what do you have to enter, the 
>>>> entire file path or just the name of that folder?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Further to John's note, usually, VO is not active, nor available, at the 
>>>>> initial login screen when File Vault is enabled.  You can press cmd-f5 to 
>>>>> try to turn on VO, you should get a single tone, at this point, as John 
>>>>> mentioned, just type your username and press return.  If it accepts your 
>>>>> username, two tones will sound meaning that it's ready for your password. 
>>>>> In my case, once I start entering my password, a tone is sounded for each 
>>>>> key-press.  After you finish the password, press return and you should 
>>>>> hear three tones if the password was accepted.  Your Mac will then start 
>>>>> up normally.  You can then log off and on with the normal login screen 
>>>>> most of the time, unless your machine is restarted or shutdown at which 
>>>>> time you'll hear the good old tone once again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTH.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 13:22, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  FileVault should work just fine. The login window is different though. 
>>>>> Be sure you press command-F5 to turn on VoiceOver. It will ask for your 
>>>>> account name, which is whatever the name is for your home folder is 
>>>>> called.
>>>>> Then, press enter and it will prompt you for your password. Type that and 
>>>>> hit enter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>> 
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
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>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>> I got a new MacBook Pro today, a 2015 retina model running the latest 
>>>>>> version of Mac OS Sierra.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can’t remember how I set up my iMac back in the day, but I do know 
>>>>>> that I don’t have File volt encryption enabled on it. This time around I 
>>>>>> decided to switch on Filevolt on my new MacBook Pro, but I came across a 
>>>>>> Voiceover bug in doing so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I restarted the machine where it asks for your password to log in, 
>>>>>> voiceover gets stuck and no matter what you press or try, all it keeps 
>>>>>> saying over and over is “username”. So basically I found it impossible 
>>>>>> to log in to my Mac using voiceover, I had to get sighted assistance to 
>>>>>> get passed the log in screen, luckily someone was on hand.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I first thought I could simply enable automatic log in so that it 
>>>>>> doesn’t ask for my password when starting up the machine, but turns out 
>>>>>> with File Volt encryption enabled, you can’t enable automatic log in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For now I disabled File Volt to work around this issue, but I’d like to 
>>>>>> enable it again if possible. Have anyone else came across this bug and 
>>>>>> are there any work arounds, something I missed?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nickus
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