Actually this wrworks really well on android with android 7.1.2 it actually tell how far you are awa y as faras your face goes, how many ffaces and so on and os that you can takea picture if you really want being blind on android. I don’t know about I os but I know hat this can be done oon android version 7.1. and beyond.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:14 PM To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: new features of iPhone next gen I try th take a picture using my I phone and voice over says nothing about my face being in the frame. So how does one do that if one points the phone at one's face as it's never worked for me. > On 19 Jun 2017, at 20:52, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Kawal, Voice Over already has aiming and focusing tips in the camera app > that use face detection. Tells you for example “a face near the center of > the photo”. > > The good thing about face detection and recognition is you need be much less > precise than with iris scanning. With an iris or retina scan you have to > look at a dot and focus on it while not moving. With facial recognition you > just need to be in the frame. The better software out there can identify you > even at an off angle. > > Hope that helps. > > >> On Jun 19, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Scott and others. >> >> How the hell is a blind person to use a phone if one has to use face >> recognition? I for one have no sight, have never seen and can't even hold a >> phone steady or in the right position for a picture to do its work. I've >> even tried Tap tap C to aim the phone at something and it aims at the wrong >> thing. So you know what I'm getting at. May be Apple will do something >> with Voice Over to make face recognition do something for a blind person. >> They normally work round these kinds of things but if they can't this time >> then that will be a first hey! >>> On 19 Jun 2017, at 15:53, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Simon, >>> >>> The new iPhone is projected to have some sort of facial recognition. >>> The retinal scanning it’s been my experience does not work for a blind >>> person. I have tried to use this in data centers instead of palm prints or >>> facial recognition and the systems require the user to focus on a point. >>> If you can’t see and focus on the point you’re a no go. Your mileage may >>> vary as I do not have retinas and irises to scan. It’s more than just >>> pointing your eyeball at a screen though if that helps. >>> >>> As for the S8 in general, you do not want th is phone it’s largely garbage. >>> The finger print reader is right next to the camera so you smudge your >>> camera continuously, the phone has had issues with crashing, it’s under >>> powered using the Snap Dragon processors, and there’s a really bad >>> implementation of the virtual home button. There are some interesting >>> cellular features but over all the phone is a miss in my opinion. If you >>> want to go android and try it out go Pixel or Pixel xl, specifically wait >>> for fall and this years new releases of the Google Pixel line. >>> >>> Hope that helps. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:17 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi List, >>>> >>>> I thought I’d ask this question and see what people think, >>>> >>>> I was looking at the new Samsung Galaxy S8 today and must admit >>>> it’s a bloody nicely designed device, However it’s an android device so it >>>> will be a very big second choice if I’m to get a new phone. >>>> >>>> A couple of things I did note from it was a couple of security >>>> features, >>>> >>>> Facial scanning recognition for unlocking your phone and also iris >>>> scanning recognition for also security like unlocking your phone >>>> etc, >>>> >>>> Now what I want to know is, >>>> Will iris scanning work for a blind person? >>>> >>>> This feature on the S8 has a depth related scanning so it can’t >>>> seemingly be fooled with a photo, And in my case I still have my >>>> own eyes although they don’t work one is white with I forget what, But I >>>> wonder will this work for those of us with eyeballs? >>>> >>>> And more to the point will apple even look at these types of security >>>> features in the next version of the iPhone? >>>> >>>> Discuss! >>>> >>>> Simon F >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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