For my part, I found Chromevox so sluggish while running Voice Over that I 
offloaded it from my Mac.  It didn’t seem to aknowledge key presses at all.  
Tried trning VO off and no good.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Jun 24, 2017, at 12:47 AM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Can ChromeVox be activated and deactivated on the fly?  In the past, there 
> were issues if the two were running simultaneously and one had to off-load 
> VoiceOver to run ChromeVox.  Still the case?
> 
> Andrew
>> On 23 Jun 2017, at 03:36, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use both.  Normally, when I go into Chrome, it's because something isn't 
>> working right in Safari, so I use ChromeVox.  When in some G Suite features 
>> like Docs and Sheets, ChromeVox works better.  The Admin Panel within the G 
>> Suite is also easier to navigate with ChromeVox, although there are times 
>> that I turn VO on to navigate tables more easily.  That could be just me not 
>> knowing all the proper CV tricks, or it could be that VO handles them 
>> better, I'm not sure.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 15:34, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> When using chrome, do you use voiceover or chromevox? I find the access with 
>> voiceover similar in both browsers, but there are times when chromevox will 
>> allow access to a site that voiceover has a problem with.
>>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s pretty much my use case as well.  If Safari chokes on a site chrome 
>>> usually gets it done and vise versa.  Also, there are times when things on 
>>> safari aren’t accessible but more controls and features are available on 
>>> chrome.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On the windows side I used to use Firefox as well as a third option but on 
>>> the Mac have been pretty much a safari and chrome user.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, Chrome works very well on a Mac.  It handles Google Apps 
>>>> services slightly better than Safari does.  It works well with VO, as in 
>>>> things like the Item Chooser and other web-router items work fairly well 
>>>> in it.  I swap back and forth between the two quite often when certain 
>>>> sites are not behaving themselves in either browser.  Many sighted users 
>>>> in our schools also switch back and forth when something is not 
>>>> cooperating.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 14:25, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It's an android browser, and not relevant if you're using a Mac.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I will not touch Google Crome:  but, what is this here thing called 
>>>>> Lightning Browser?  I reckon it’s accessible?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>>>> built-in
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>>>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> Have you tried with lightning webbrowser or google chrome?
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>> 21 juni 2017 kl. 16:48 skrev Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, one thing’s for sure.  You can forget 
>>>>>>> www.walmart.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With the Mac, the site is totally impossible to log in to.  You get 
>>>>>>> stuck and cannot go anywhere.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You actually have to force quit Safari to be able to do anything with 
>>>>>>> it at all afterward.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>>>>>> blind built-in
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon 
>>>>>>> Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:27 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I use Safari. On rare occasions I'll get busy messages that make a 
>>>>>>>> page hard to use, but it's uncommon enough that I don't really worry 
>>>>>>>> about it. That said, I've heard plenty of people say they experience 
>>>>>>>> what you do. I have no idea why this happens to some and not others. 
>>>>>>>> All I can suggest is to contact Apple about it, maybe with some system 
>>>>>>>> diagnostic files. When Safari is busy, hit 
>>>>>>>> cmd-option-control-shift-period. After a few minutes, you'll be placed 
>>>>>>>> in a Finder window where you'll find the file you want to send along.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Alex Hall
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 22:29, Nimer Jaber <nimerjab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am wondering which browser all of you use? I often experience 
>>>>>>>>> Safari saying busy, busy, busy… and it is very frustrating… I have to 
>>>>>>>>> say that my browsing experience is far from delightful. Does anyone 
>>>>>>>>> else face these experiences? If so, which browser do you use?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> thanks.
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