Thanks  mary, for the explanation of this one.  

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I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. The 
problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to  speak, is 
often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go to. It might 
be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the makers of nearby 
explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where exactly on the map or 
whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more interested in cars getting to 
where they're going and pedestrians

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> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I 
> was in school.  I will definitely check out this app.
>    The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective.  You 
> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the 
> clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you were. 
>  They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the track 
> number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over the door.
> 
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called 
>> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It 
>> uses GPS and the Google Places database.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
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>>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s 
>>> included.  How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? 
>>>  I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in several 
>>> public transit and similar areas in San Francisco.  Used very simple analog 
>>> Infrared signals but was fairly effective.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. 
>>>> Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was 
>>>> added to accessibility.
>>>> 
>>>> I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about.
>>>> 
>>>> Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and 
>>>> airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles 
>>>> from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed every 
>>>> weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple Retail 
>>>> store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify if I have 
>>>> passed Nordstroms or still have  200 feet to go.
>>>> 
>>>> Best Wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
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