I agree! That's the one thing I really hate about the Mac. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 1, 2017, at 5:04 AM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It really annoys me that you have to use so many keys to do something so > simple. > > On 7/1/17, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote: >> Hi Cait. Actually, anyone that has Sierra installed will be able to run High >> Sierra. That includes mid 2010 Macs like mine. And as for the extra key, >> they did this so that accessing the navigation rotor is easier for people. >> But I do understand that it may be an inconvenience for some people. >> >> Shawn >> Sent From My White MacBook >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >> >>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:43 AM, Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I couldn’t imagine them taking away a vital way of fiddling with your vo >>> options! >>> >>> and, alas, my own mac, a mid 2010 model, will probably soon not be able to >>> handle upcoming OS’s.. guess I better start putting money into the piggy >>> bank.. >>> >>> Cait >>> >>>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 1:37 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> At least so far as I am aware, you are not losing your mind. Bear in >>>> mind, however, that since this here mid 2009 Mac book pro cannot handle >>>> any form of Sera, I had to wing it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>> built-in >>>> >>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >>>> >>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless >>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! >>>> >>>>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:01 AM, Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> thanks ray, I thought maybe I was losing my mind! lol >>>>> >>>>> Cait >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You sure you weren’t using VO+CMD+arrow keys? That’s the way you >>>>>> actually do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>> blind built-in >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >>>>>> >>>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon >>>>>> Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 11:45 PM, Daniel Chavez <topdog2...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:topdog2...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good day list, >>>>>>> I was wondering why, on the new High Sierra for Mac, did they take >>>>>>> away VO plus right arrow, so that you can quickly change things (e.g., >>>>>>> speech rate, volume, etc?) >>>>>>> I don't seem to be able to use VO plus right arrow any longer to >>>>>>> adjust those values, and was wondering how else can I adjust stuff >>>>>>> like speech rate on the fly? When I use VO plus right arrow now, it >>>>>>> shows only stuff like, (If I'm on my desktop), words, characters, web >>>>>>> spots, navigation, etc.) >>>>>>> No longer do I see speech rate, volume, or none of the options >>>>>>> available when Mac OS Sierra was a fully released version. Do I have >>>>>>> to now use Voiceover Utility from now on to configure what I want? I >>>>>>> went into VO help, but it doesn't give me what I need as far as a >>>>>>> solution. >>>>>>> Thanks for any help that can be provided. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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