Well, let's see if that whenever comes to market and what kind of firmware is with it, and what his capabilities are at Cetera. Lots of slippage between initial design and hype and what actually hits the market. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: > > In the us it’s going to be about $495 I believe. The Massachusetts Institute > of Technology has a team the has developed a braille display that should come > in around $200 US or 225 pounds. > > >> On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> The orbit reader is coming and it's going to cost £500 (nort sure what that >> is in dollars) but it's a whole lot cheaper. When that comes out on the >> market, braille displays, the expensive ones may be finished! >> >> Kawal. >>> On 24 Jul 2017, at 17:02, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> Did not understand that but well, if a user is dependent on braille, that >>> user will not feel a solidly-made braille display to be overpriced. >>> Understand that concept? But here is the thing. How large a market do >>> braille displays have? I dare say if if you can produce fantastic displays >>> and sell a thousand a year, think you could sell them cheap and make a >>> profit? Or would a million a year be more in line? >>> >>> I've never studied marketing and all that but can say that if a company >>> does not make a profit, it cannot stay in business. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 7/24/2017 8:50 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>> And iPhone with the braille display would be much less expensive than the >>>> blandest waited well no takers. However, I understand people like them, I >>>> just think they are way too costly. Just one person's opinion. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:43 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Les, >>>>> Overpriced compared to? Is there a mainstream solution especially for the >>>>> deafblind? >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/24/2017 8:39 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>>> Hi Mary, >>>>>> >>>>>> In my opinion, all the no takers including the ultra or overpriced. The >>>>>> ultra the last time I checked for the 40 so my will cost her about >>>>>> $4000. Not worth it in my opinion for what you get. Anybody who buys a >>>>>> blind is no taking device is really paying premium for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you don't want the full blown capability of a very expensive >>>>>>> blindness note taker, such as the new Polaris, you might consider the >>>>>>> varrio ultra. That has the ability to transfer files with a USB stick. >>>>>>> And it also has note taking capability. It has an excellent warranty. >>>>>>> Some people also find it more complicated than the traditional regular >>>>>>> braille displays such as the edge. They do have excellent US customer >>>>>>> support, as well as an online manual, and an active helpful email >>>>>>> list. This display comes in 20 or 40 sell links. It has a text reader, >>>>>>> word processor, PDF reader, spreadsheet viewer and others. What it >>>>>>> does not have our things like the ability to fetch email or connect to >>>>>>> the Internet. That is where you would need the full note taker, but >>>>>>> then you're also going to be paying a whole lot more. And if you're >>>>>>> good with your iPhone and your Mac, really, who needs that? >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 3:08 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> Personally, I love any of the Hims devices, so these are things like >>>>>>>> the new polaris and the U2, braille sense line of products. The >>>>>>>> braille is nice and crisp, and the devices themselves are just very >>>>>>>> well made. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can’t speak about anything made by humanware except the brilliant, >>>>>>>> but that’s a full sized display and doesn’t have the capability to >>>>>>>> store files, just access what’s on the computer when you are hooked >>>>>>>> up to it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the braille edge from Hims also works somewhat like a braille >>>>>>>> note taker, but am not sure on that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve had no troubles getting files from the mac onto the braille >>>>>>>> sense. when I attach it to my mac with a USB cable, the device comes >>>>>>>> up like any other drive, and I can copy and paste things from one to >>>>>>>> the other, although it takes a long time. Of course, you can also >>>>>>>> use a usb stick to transfer files, or the sd card. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH, and I’ll be interested to see what others have to say on this as >>>>>>>> well! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Sarah Amelia Sackville McLauchlan >>>>>>>>> <phantom.va...@gmail.com <mailto:phantom.va...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So am looking for some advice/guidance before I go out and start >>>>>>>>> applying for assistive tech grant money. I used to use the >>>>>>>>> BrailleNote, but mine died a long time ago. And even before it did, >>>>>>>>> I was starting to run into compatibility issues between it, the >>>>>>>>> program I used to transfer files to my old computer (a PC in those >>>>>>>>> days), and the computer itself. Plus, of course, I've since >>>>>>>>> switched to Mac, which I don't think my BrailleNote was compatible >>>>>>>>> with anyway. So now I'm without a Braille device! 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