Nah the magic keyboard is very streamline. I have a separate pocket in my laptop bag where it fits nicely. Really like it because I can kick back in my cube with my headphones on and feet up on my desk hahaha and not hold the weight of the laptop. Also the key feel is quite good for a wireless keyboard. It’s the size of the 15 inch MacBook Pro keyboard with function keys. It’s not like carrying around one of the big Logitech deals.
> On Aug 18, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > Yeha the processor is currently on the lower side, but I'm still not a fan of > the touch bar and or keyboard, > As for magic keyboard, yeah just another pease of crap to cary aroiund with > me. > > > A good thing though is I'm able to do more and more from my iPad except > currently for powershell command line stuff which is really only limiting > when working with exchange > Still I'd rather have the 11inch air with upscaled processor ram and hdd > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017 4:28 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple MacBook Air (2017) review - CNET > > Don’t go with a non touch bar version, you won’t like the processor hit. > Just use a magic keyboard. I have one and love it now that I’m used to it. > > I think my favorite laptop though is still my MacBook Pro 15 Mid 2016 with a > 2.8 GHz quad core I7, upgraded graphics and a TB of SSD along with the built > in MagSafe. I have no idea why they canned MagSafe, I like it as well. They > do make a USB-C to MagSafe adapter though which brings it back all be it > through an adapter to your laptops. Good thing is you can reuse the old > power cords then instead of having to buy all new USB-C power cubes. > >> On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:47 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >> >> Yeah I love my air 11inch from mid 2013 >> >> I will need to look at a new machine next year but can't find one I >> currently like. >> >> The new keyboards put me offand yeah the lack of magsafe adaptor again puts >> me off. >> >> As for the processor yeah I'm going to have to go to a mac book pro >> without the touch bar Faster processor and more ram Still I want an 11 >> inch body. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Friday, 18 August 2017 12:08 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple MacBook Air (2017) review - CNET >> >> CNET Reviews - Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 4:00 AM Apple MacBook Air (2017) >> review - CNET Apple's MacBook Air is as close to iconic as a piece of >> consumer technology gets. It's the single laptop model you're most likely to >> see everywhere, from college campuses to airports to coffee shops and even >> offices. And it's been that way for a very long time. >> That's the problem. Not counting an incremental spec bump in mid-2017, this >> is still internally almost the same MacBook Air as the last refresh in 2015, >> and externally, it's had basically the same design since 2010 (when the >> original 2008 design got an overhaul). In technology terms, that's roughly >> forever. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> But it's also a testament to what a strong product the Air was in its >> heyday. To have a laptop that looks and feels the same as it did for >> so many years while still a maintaining a loyal following, that's a >> rare achievement. The MacBook Air is no longer the >> best-for-almost-everyone device it once was, but it's the least >> expensive way (by far) to get MacOS on a laptop, so there's certainly >> still a place for it. Note that the Air we tested had a Core i7 CPU >> and 256GB SSD upgrade, for a total of $1,349, >> £1,234 or AU$2,039. The Air still starts at $999, £949 and AU$1,499, and can >> be found for even less online. >> SYSTEM NAME >> Price as reviewed $1,349, £1,234 or AU$2,039 (starts at $999, £949 or >> AU$1,499) >> Display size/resolution 13-inch, 1,440x900-pixel display >> CPU 2.2GHz Intel Core i7-5650U >> Memory 8GB DDR3 SDRAM 1,600MHz >> Graphics 1,536MB Intel HD Graphics 6000 >> Storage 256GB SSD >> Networking 802.11ac Wi-Fi wireless; Bluetooth 4.0 >> Operating system MacOS 10.12.6 Sierra >> Still kicking >> And a lot about the MacBook Air still works. As a long-time Air user, but >> also someone who hasn't spent a lot of time on one over the last few years, >> firing up the 2017 version felt like visiting an old friend. >> There's the just-right size of the 13-inch screen, still the best balance >> between viewability and portability; the rock-solid aluminum body, which can >> stand up to years of abuse; and the chunky island-style keyboard, itself now >> extinct across the rest of the MacBook line, replaced by super-shallow >> butterfly keys that lack this level of tactile feedback. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> The Air also scores points for being the last MacBook with a good, >> old-fashioned USB-A port. You know, the kind that every mouse, memory key >> and other accessory you own fits into. The MacBook Pro and the 12-inch >> MacBook have both gone all-in on USB-C, which is forward-looking to be sure, >> but a limiting frustration for many. >> Picking it up, I was reminded of another reason I loved this particular >> laptop line for so long: the MagSafe power connection. The plug, which >> automatically pulls away from the body when you yank the cord or trip over >> it, remains one of the most brilliant bits of consumer PC engineering ever. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> It's since been replaced by USB-C power connections, which are handy for >> sharing data, power, video and other connections through the same port, but >> not nearly as flexible. That classic MagSafe has rescued many, many laptops >> from a grim fate over the years, and that's just the ones I've personally >> almost killed. >> Feeling its age >> But using a MacBook Air, even a brand new one, in 2017 feels like getting >> stuck in a bit of a time warp. The processor is years out of date compared >> to newer slim laptops -- even though the big update for 2017 is a slight >> base CPU uptick, from a 1.6GHz Intel Core i5 to a 1.8GHz one, or in our >> case, an optional 2.2GHz Core i7. All are from the same fifth generation of >> those chips, while Intel is about to announce details of the upcoming >> eighth-generation Core CPUs. >> I'd argue that for websurfing, video streaming and social media, it's >> not a huge deal to have an older-generation processor, but for a >> thousand bucks and up, you're not wrong to want something newer. It is >> great, however, to get 8GB of RAM as the default now, over the >> previous 4GB. The optional Core >> i7 in our test system helped the Air keep pace with, or beat, some slim >> laptops with newer Core i5 CPUs. But much more importantly, the Air is still >> a battery life king, running more than 10 hours. >> >> A 13-inch Pro vs. the 13-inch Air in a battle of the bezels. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> The single biggest thing that keeps the MacBook Air stuck in the past >> is its display. This is a 1,440x900-pixel display, the same as the Air >> has used for many generations. It's also not an IPS display, the >> in-plane switching technology found in newer laptops that helps with >> off-axis viewing. For anything above an ultrabudget laptop, it's not >> wrong to expect a higher resolution, especially in 2017, where even >> bargain basement televisions have 4K panels, and a growing number of >> midrange laptops are shooting past >> 1,920x1,080 towards 2,560x1,440 or even 4K. >> So many new devices have shaved down the bezel, which is what we call the >> outer border around the screen. TVs and phones are nearly bezel-free today, >> and high-end laptops like the Dell XPS 13 or Samsung Notebook 9 are >> following the same path. By comparison, the wide silver border around the >> 13-inch MacBook Air screen may be the single most dated thing about the >> design. >> Two years ago, I said: "On the Air, you have a very thick bezel, the dead >> space between the edge of the display and the edge of the lid ... giving you >> a less premium look and feel." The feeling is even more pronounced now, >> especially as the MacBook and MacBook Pro combine great higher-resolution >> screens with much thinner borders. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> It's a price thing >> I know it sounds like I've judged the MacBook Air harshly for not keeping up >> with the times, but there's an important mitigating factor that could still >> make it the right choice for a great many shoppers. >> The original MacBook Air launched in 2008 (with a single USB port and a slow >> non-SSD hard drive!) at $1,799 in the US. Over time that came down to $999 >> for the base 13-inch Air, which is where it still sits today. That's $300 >> less than either a 12-inch MacBook or the lowest-end 13-inch MacBook Pro >> (both start at $1,299, £1,249 or AU$1,899), making this the most affordable >> MacBook by a wide margin. >> Spending around the same on a new Windows laptop will get you a better >> display, newer processor and probably more RAM and SSD storage (and even a >> hybrid hinge and touchscreen) -- but if you're determined to buy a MacOS >> laptop over a Windows 10 one, this is the least expensive option. >> >> From left to right, the MacBook Pro, MacBook Air and MacBook. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> Even better, while Apple sells the 13-inch MacBook Air for $999 and up, it's >> often easy to find at many US retailers for $899 or less, or $100 off the >> higher-end 256GB SSD configuration. Pre-2017 models, which are essentially >> identical in almost every way, can be found for as little as $799. >> Years ago, I called the MacBook Air the most universally useful laptop you >> could buy, because of its great design, long battery life and decent specs. >> Today, its appeal isn't quite as broad, and the design is definitely showing >> its age. 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