That is a bummer, Les. I assume that it will only work with Jaws. Since I really don’t like using jaws, that would be a bummer for me. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Mary, > > Unfortunately, auto school does not work with the iPhone. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Les, >> Does auto scroll work outside of jaws? That is, on a Mac or an iPhone? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 4:18 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> >>> A couple of months ago, I purchased the Fifth Generation Focus for the >>> reasons you stated. I like being able to quickly switch between my iPhone >>> and PC with this display. Regardless of the company one chooses to work >>> with, there are pros and cons with all of them. I chose the Focus as I am >>> confident Freedom Scientific will be around to support this device. >>> >>> Les >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Mary Otten >>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 1:56 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Braille Displays >>> >>> One of the things about the focus this place has been complaints about >>> durability in the past. One of the new things with the new generation is >>> sturdier build. They have bumpers on the ends of them now, and it’s a metal >>> housing I believe. My friend loves the auto scroll feature. But he is a >>> jaws user. I don’t know if it works in any other context besides Jaws. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Apr 28, 2018, at 9:42 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Mary and Jason, >>> > Good question on availability. I will need to look into that. >>> > >>> > The new Focus sounds interesting. In general how well has the Focus >>> > line held up? That auto scroll feature is intriguing. I may see if I can >>> > get one to look at. >>> > >>> > From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> > ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> > Many believe that we have been visited >>> > in the past. What if it were true? >>> > >>> >> On 4/28/2018 9:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >> Can you even still purchase a v u? I didn’t think baum USA, which is now >>> >> out of business, even had any stock left. It’s a great display with a >>> >> big learning curve. I would really seriously look at the new generation >>> >> focus if I were you. It has multiple devices capability and will have >>> >> some notetaking capability later this year. A friend of mine just got >>> >> one and says it’s very well-built, and he really likes it a lot. >>> >> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 9:31 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Donna, >>> >>> Good feedback. When I first got the Edge I was impressed with it. But >>> >>> I think HIMS moves on rather too quickly and legacy products pile up. >>> >>> I think the last update is from 2015. >>> >>> >>> >>> There is no end to the learning curve so since you anticipated my >>> >>> desire to join a VU list, I just joined! Thanks for that. >>> >>> >>> >>> I do like the multiple Bluetooth concept. I found the user guide too >>> >>> so will go through it over the next week or so. >>> >>> >>> >>> Perhaps someone will take over Baum. If that happens, lets hope it >>> >>> does not decrease in quality of product and support. >>> >>> >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 4/28/2018 5:59 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hey ET, >>> >>>> I currently own both those displays--I replaced my Edge with the VU, >>> >>>> and was never able to sell my Edge. >>> >>>> This is a really hard question to answer. Erik is right, the >>> >>>> bankruptcy issue with Baum has real nightmare potential. Currently >>> >>>> David Bradburn is providing some repair support, but he's doing it as >>> >>>> a side-gig. The only tech support is the VU list. It's a lot of >>> >>>> knowledgeable and very helpful folks, but that's not the same as >>> >>>> getting tech support from the company. >>> >>>> That said, the VU is the best display I've ever owned. The Braille >>> >>>> Edge frankly doesn't even come close. I'm not sure what happened with >>> >>>> the Edge. It has lots of coolness potential, but it's like HIMS >>> >>>> started to develop it and then just stopped. It has all these >>> >>>> function keys, for example, but most of them don't do much. The apps >>> >>>> are also very limited. It has a sort of minimal word processor and >>> >>>> file manager, and a calculator, but it's all kind of like something >>> >>>> you'd find on an old flip phone. >>> >>>> The VU has a nice word processor with separate file manager, a PDF >>> >>>> reader, and an Excel spreadsheet viewer. And as Erik pointed out, can >>> >>>> connect to multiple bluetooth devices. >>> >>>> The VU also has by far the nicer form factor. It's funny, when the >>> >>>> Edge came out it felt relatively small, but it is very heavy and >>> >>>> blocky compared to the VU, which is small, and light, and sleek. >>> >>>> The VU has a significantly higher learning curve, but I wouldn't >>> >>>> imagine that that would be an issue for you. >>> >>>> One last thing to think about is that with the Edge, you transfer >>> >>>> files onto it with an SD card, which is pretty dated. With the VU, >>> >>>> you can transfer either via USB drive or you can connect it directly >>> >>>> to a PC, and it functions as a stand-alone drive. Unfortunately, that >>> >>>> feature does not work on the Mac. >>> >>>> So, that's the sum of my wisdom on the subject. The VU is by far the >>> >>>> better display, but it depends on whether you want to get involved >>> >>>> with the Baum situation. Were it me, I'd probably still go for the >>> >>>> VU, it's just that much better. But I can certainly understand >>> >>>> someone not wanting to take that risk. If you want to try and track >>> >>>> down a VU, I'd suggest joining the list and asking there. The URL to >>> >>>> subscribe is: varioultra-reque...@freelists.org. Put Subscribe in the >>> >>>> subject line. If you have any other questions, I'm happy to try and >>> >>>> answer them. >>> >>>> Cheers, >>> >>>> Donna >>> >>>>> On Apr 27, 2018, at 5:41 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I have the opportunity to replace my Braille Edge. Donna, I hope >>> >>>>> you will chime in. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I can choose just about anything but will limit my choice to either >>> >>>>> another Edge or the Vario Ultra 40. Given that Baum is in bankruptcy, >>> >>>>> the question is then what about tech support. Is the Vario Ultra >>> >>>>> still a good bet? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> >>>>> in the past. 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