Oh! I've often wondered why there wasn't an international keyboard for the Mac. Guess I should have looked a little harder. Thanks, Jonathan! Cheers, Donna
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Donna, > > First of all, I believe you said your keyboard selection was ISO which is a > very specialized keyboard listed under “other languages”. I am not quite sure > how it works. For those that have learned touch typing in the US but need to > input a bit of accented characters there is besides the option-e for accent > acute and option i for accent circumflex the US International keyboard. This > makes the accent input more like on a PC where you don’t need to use a two > finger keystroke to input accents. > > For more information read: > > https://www.macworld.com/article/1147039/os-x/accentinput.html > <https://www.macworld.com/article/1147039/os-x/accentinput.html> > > Best Wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > >> On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:29 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> That's good to know, Anne. I can well believe that I may have changed >> something accidentally. Someday I may try it again. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 12:36 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk >>> <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote: >>> >>> I’m still using Sierra, but for years now I’ve had two keyboards configured >>> on my Mac since French uses so many different accents. I’ve never had a >>> problem switching keyboards and the French layout has never interfered with >>> the functioning of any keys. >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 5 Jul 2018, at 21:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No, I never got around to looking at the keyboard. I'm pretty comfortable >>>> entering diacritics with the accent key on the US keyboard, so I probably >>>> won't play with the Spanish one again till I have some time on my hands. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 2:18 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Taking a break from housework. I removed Spanish from Languages and >>>>> Regions. Interesting that it was still in Keyboard prefs so removed that >>>>> too. Now the text input menu is as it was before. >>>>> >>>>> Have you looked at the character viewer in that menu? Might be easier >>>>> than having more than one keyboard. There's also an emoji viewer there. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>> Science is not only compatible with spirituality; >>>>> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan >>>>> >>>>> On 7/5/2018 11:19 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> Hi ET, >>>>>> Mostly I added the Spanish keyboard for grins. I may give it another go >>>>>> someday, but for now, I'm just sticking with US. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 10:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Donna, >>>>>>> I was curious so I went to Languages and Regions and added Spanish. >>>>>>> This also added the Spanish keyboard in Keyboard preferences. Then I >>>>>>> went to menu extras and could not find the text input menu. That is >>>>>>> because it changed to US which is still my preferred language. So this >>>>>>> is where one can chnge the language on the fly. Typically with just one >>>>>>> language one can go to the text input menu and bring up the character >>>>>>> viewer and select those oddball symbols so no need for extra keyboards >>>>>>> if one only needs to type in an occasional foreign language character. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As an aside I tested the option key and its fine. I am going to stop at >>>>>>> that. (grins) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>> Science is not only compatible with spirituality; >>>>>>> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/5/2018 4:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>>> Yeah, I don't think I'll ever change that setting again. lol >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 12:00 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe that control in extras is app-specific, or even trickier, >>>>>>>>> document-specific, and the one in System Preferences is for >>>>>>>>> everything else. Could be useful, although you’d have to really be >>>>>>>>> good at remember what you use where. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2018, at 9:47 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes. But then I removed it again once all this started happening. >>>>>>>>>> If you go into Extras, and go past battery status, you'll see it. I >>>>>>>>>> had just assumed it was a second occurrence of the control that >>>>>>>>>> appears under Keyboard prefs, but it must be different somehow. >>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2018, at 9:29 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You had installed a Spanish keyboard right? I followed the trail >>>>>>>>>>> from the text input on menu extras. It was under the Input tab in >>>>>>>>>>> keyboard preferences, right? Just curious in case I add a keyboard. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>>>> Science is not only compatible with spirituality; >>>>>>>>>>> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 4:56 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I can't take much credit, though. It was sheer dumb >>>>>>>>>>>> luck. Since I had already checked that setting under keyboard >>>>>>>>>>>> prefs, I could easily have gone the rest of my life without >>>>>>>>>>>> looking at it in the extras menu. I just assumed they were the >>>>>>>>>>>> same setting under different locations, but apparently they're not. >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2018, at 3:35 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey donna, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Great work. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad you found it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now if you do it again you'll know where to go. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome work. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2018 3:24 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: OMG, I can't believe I fixed it! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So after spending most of the evening trying to set up my new >>>>>>>>>>>>> user profile, I fixed the option key problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I was using the status menu to check the battery. In doing so, I >>>>>>>>>>>>> passed over the Text Input item in the extras menu. It was set >>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unicode Hex, rather than US. I had actually checked that >>>>>>>>>>>>> setting under keyboard prefs and it was set correctly, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> evidently, the setting in the Extras menu is separate from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> setting in Keyboard prefs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This has easily been one of the most annoying problems I've ever >>>>>>>>>>>>> encountered on the Mac. 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