Hmm, maybe not. At least that would explain it. Hopefully they'll fix in 2016, bu I've been doing more playing around with Pages, and I think I can make it work. And my old PC hasn't croaked yet, so I still have time to sort things out. Makes me glad I only paid $20 for Office, though. :) Cheers, Donna
> On Jul 29, 2018, at 7:19 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > There were strange cursor movement issues in reading and editing documents > with earlier versions of Microsoft Word 2016 for Mac, but they’ve been > largely fixed in recent Office 365 versions. I don’t know whether those fixes > made it to the stand-alone version, though. > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Date: Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 19:51 > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word > > Hi Jason, > > It sounds like we're experiencing the same difficulty associating comments > with their place in the text. I'm kind of relieved by that - I was starting > to wonder about what you had said about 365 getting major accessibility > updates, that perhaps Office 2016 did not get. > > I don't know what to make of the cursor movement issue. But every time I try > to read a comment, it seems to jump to the end of the document. It may well > be the result of something I'm doing, but I haven't been able to figure out > what. I do what is described in the document you sent me the link to: that > is VO-arrow over to the comment. But I'm only seeing the first line of the > comment. When I try and arrow down to see the rest of it, that's when the > cursor takes off. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Jul 29, 2018, at 6:20 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Using the Office 365 version of Microsoft Word for Mac, I’m not finding that >> the cursor jumps around unexpectedly. I can read comments, but I’m not sure >> how to move to the place in the text associated with a comment. VO-J doesn’t >> achieve the desired result. >> >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Date: Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 16:46 >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Subject: Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word >> >> Hi John, >> >> I can't share a work document. I'll try and create a document and share it >> so that you can see what I mean. It's really crazy. Every time I try to >> read a comment, the comment doesn't correspond to the place where I last was >> in the text. For some reason I also keep randomly being moved around in the >> document, for example, it jumps to the end, even though I did not make it do >> that. I really don't understand at all how this could be usable. My plan >> is just to use Pages, and then re-export to word. I'll just have to check >> and make sure all fonts an formatting stick. >> Thanks, >> Donna >> >> >> >>> On Jul 29, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Donna, >>> >>> I don't know if I will have time to play with this, but if you have a >>> document that you can share on Dropbox or equivalent where you were having >>> troubles withcomments/change information then perhaps somebody on list can >>> review. I can't imagine the best solution for you would be to use pages to >>> review updates and then do actual changes in Word. >>> >>> Take Care, >>> >>> Jonathan Cohn >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 28, 2018, at 11:17 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I read this. It didn't help. >>>> >>>> If you know of something I'm missing, please let me know. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 28, 2018, at 7:34 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> For the use of comments in Microsoft Word for Mac with VoiceOver, >>>>> Microsoft's official guide is at >>>>> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/use-a-screen-reader-to-add-read-and-delete-comments-in-word-c4648d50-4f7b-4795-b487-9e3141a5a596 >>>>> >>>>> <https://support.office.com/en-us/article/use-a-screen-reader-to-add-read-and-delete-comments-in-word-c4648d50-4f7b-4795-b487-9e3141a5a596> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/28/18, 18:12, "Sarai Bucciarelli" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of >>>>> sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I'm thinking of track changes. LOL. >>>>> >>>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli >>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 5:10 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word >>>>> >>>>> No actually if you’re using word and windows, Jaws shows you what text >>>>> the comments are associated with. It’s definitely easier to follow in >>>>> windows the native on the Mac. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 28, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli >>>>>> <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi: >>>>>> >>>>>> Just note the same issues with comments is also in the Windows version >>>>>> of Word. >>>>>> Microsoft has done a wonderful job with accessibility. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli >>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 4:41 PM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Subject: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and >>>>>> have come to the conclusion that I prefer Pages. I agree with those who >>>>>> said Word is very accessible. Microsoft has done a pretty good job with >>>>>> this. But for my purposes, Pages works better. A major factor in my >>>>>> decision is that, while you can see changes and comments in Word, you >>>>>> can't tell what text they are linked to. In Pages on the other hand, >>>>>> this is very clear. Since that is important for my job, I think Pages >>>>>> will be most useable, and I'll just have to be extra careful about >>>>>> document fonts. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just thought I'd post this in case it's of interest to anyone. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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