Fair point, ET. Like I said, with the new phones coming out, I may just see if I can pick up a used one. That way I keep all my options open. Cheers, Donna
> On Sep 1, 2018, at 10:46 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Donna, > I got the 8 plus after 5 years with the 5. Its truly s major step up. I > would not concern myself with what might happen down the road. Get the 8 and > take it one day at a time. There is simply too much going on in the world, we > should not spend time worrying about the future. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 9/1/2018 5:04 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> Hi Shawn, >> You know, getting an iPhone 8 is one of the options I've been considering. >> My fear is that it will just become too slow to use within a year or so. >> Cheers, >> Donna >>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 3:32 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well I for one am not about to give up my Apple products and go to the >>> darkside. I bought my new Mac this past March and just recently purchased >>> an iPhone 8 and they're both working great. As for the iPhone, I'm going to >>> keep this 8 until they decide to stop supporting it. I'm also reluctant to >>> switch to Face ID but not because of what's been said on here. I have no >>> problems swiping up to go home or to use Face ID to unlock the phone. >>> What's really deterring me is the method to use Apple Pay. I use Apple Pay >>> almost everywhere except for Walmart of course who still uses old and >>> obsolete methods for payment. It's nice to just point my phone at the debit >>> machine and hold my finger on the Touch ID sensor to make my purchase. With >>> face ID it sounds like you have to point the phone at the machine, point it >>> at your face, then point it back at the machine and double press the side >>> button It would be nice if Apple could eliminate some of these steps. Maybe >>> when they stop supporting the iPhone 8 hopefully Apple Pay will be quicker >>> than it is now. If not, I guess I'll just have to persevere. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Shawn, >>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>> >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>> P.S. On the 2017 MacBook Air, there's still a startup chime. Weird how they >>> discontinued it for one computer and not on another. >>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 1:15 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> According to the rumours, Apple will be removing touch ID from all the new >>>> devices. >>>> >>>> It is important to note: Apple has been on a quest to remove all buttons, >>>> switches, and so forth for several years, so I expect these rumours are >>>> accurate. >>>> >>>> I do not remember the spelling of the Chinese company, but their new >>>> flagship phone has Apple's 3D Face ID, and the touchscreen embedded >>>> fingerprint sensor which Apple was reportedly rumoured to be experimenting >>>> with last year. >>>> >>>> All the other Android Face ID systems are currently using 2D picture >>>> matching Face ID. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> >>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 1 Sep 2018, at 15:24, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu >>>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Donna, >>>>> >>>>> I couldn't agree with you more. >>>>> >>>>> I’m hoping that Apple will, in fact, maintain some form of Touch ID. I >>>>> just can't imagine that they would completely eliminate such a trusted >>>>> form of ID verification. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, I said the same thing about removing the headphone jack and we >>>>> all know how that turned out (smile). >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I have absolutely no desire to use Face ID. >>>>> >>>>> Let's just wait and see what happens on September 12th, okay? >>>>> >>>>> By the way, it is for this and other reasons why I continue to purchase >>>>> and use Android devices; you know, just in case Apple takes this big >>>>> brother thing, a little too far for my tastes (smile). >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 6:46 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: Mac OS Start up Chimes >>>>> >>>>> You know, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm feeling frustrated with >>>>> Apple. I was really hoping that the new iPhone models would include an >>>>> option for a faster iPhone 8. Face ID sucks. It takes significantly >>>>> longer to unlock your phone, and is much more finicky. I'm feeling >>>>> resentful that Apple is trying to force me into a technology that I have >>>>> tried, and do not like. I don't want Face ID. I don't need a ginormous >>>>> screen. I sure as h*** don't need three cameras. I'm starting to wonder >>>>> if my next phone will be a cheapy that makes calls and texts, and I do >>>>> the rest from my Mac. I don't want some giant tech company to dictate >>>>> how I will use technology. If Apple wants to continue to promote face >>>>> recognition to the exclusion of more convenient technologies, that's >>>>> their prerogative. But they should have kept a touch option available >>>>> for those of us who tried face ID and know it sucks. And as for the new >>>>> flick up for home? It sucks, too. Being able to quickly press a home >>>>> button--be it actual or virtual--was much more efficient. My only >>>>> power--small though it may be--is my purchasing power. And I am really >>>>> wondering if my next phone will be a non-Apple product. >>>>> >>>>> I know this is only tangentially related to the start-up chime, but I >>>>> feel it's all part of the same thing. Why not leave the chime enabled, >>>>> or at least make it an option for those who want it? Why should Apple be >>>>> deciding this for us? They seem to want to make an argument that they >>>>> are not big-brotherish, but actually, they're no better than the rest. >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 31, 2018, at 7:51 PM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Stupid that they removed it. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/31/18, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi shaun, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah the line in the web page details that say: >>>>>>> Feature removed by apple on latest firmware, doesn't work anymore.” >>>>>>> Kind of says to me that this doesn’t work anymore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh well, other people can keep trying. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 31 August 2018 6:03 PM >>>>>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mac OS Start up Chimes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no proof that this command works. I've heard from experts >>>>>>> that it doesn't but go ahead and try it yourself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Shawn, >>>>>>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com><mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2018, at 6:07 AM, Anders Holmberg >>>>>>> <and...@pipkrokodil.se >>>>>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se><mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> Found this link. >>>>>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/tutorial-disable-auto-boot-on-ne >>>>>>> w-macbook-pros.2011044/ >>>>>>> Try that and see if it helps. >>>>>>> /A >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 29 aug. 2018 kl. 11:32 skrev Simon Fogarty >>>>>>> <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Listers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok so I'm kind of getting hacked off with the fact my new work Mac >>>>>>> Book Pro doesn't do the start up chimes that Apple / mac computers >>>>>>> have done since long before I started using Mac products. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've got VO starting at log in but when for some reason I need to >>>>>>> force restart for some unknown reason, if I use the power button to >>>>>>> turn off / on the machine I never know when it's restarting until it >>>>>>> starts talking to me, If I'm lucky enough for vo to still be >>>>>>> talking.I know this effects us all, But have we ever or has anyone >>>>>>> ever contacted Apple accessibility to explain that this chime at >>>>>>> start up would be really useful to us the sight impaired to know when >>>>>>> / if our machines are starting up Or do in my case I just keep >>>>>>> thinking the batteries dead and put it on mains power when I don't >>>>>>> need to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any thoughts appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Slightly P'd off mac book pro user. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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