my understanding is that if I heard "bullet..." that meant that I had a 
password in Safari for that site. otherwise I just hear "secure text field" is 
that correct?

> On Sep 21, 2018, at 5:22 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
>   In many cases its empty but this is indicating that it is a secure text 
> field. If in doubt, backspace then you should be good to go and enter your 
> password.
> 
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> On 9/21/2018 3:12 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> it says it in both the username and password fields. if I hear "bullet 
>> bullet bullet" in the password field, is the password already there or do I 
>> need to press down-arrow and enter?
>>> On Sep 21, 2018, at 4:16 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> If it's giving you those instructions, then focus is likely on the field 
>>> that it is rambling on about.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2018, at 15:10, Lorie McCloud <lorice...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> something has changed for sure. it may very well be that Apple has changed 
>>> the way it's done. I have already been doing as you suggested but I haven't 
>>> been able to gain focus because instead of reporting exactly where I am, vo 
>>> is giving me instructions for using the stored info.
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2018, at 3:59 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Try to press tab and/or shift-tab to make sure that you get focus on the 
>>>> username entry field, then arrow down once and press return.  This should 
>>>> auto-fill your information.  It's possible that all that has happened is 
>>>> that Safari and Apple have changed the way that you were accustomed to 
>>>> doing this.  It's supposed to be a more secure process.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2018, at 14:31, Lorie McCloud <lorice...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I was out of town for 3 weeks and when I got back here and fired up my Mac 
>>>> I started having problems. I've tried to log into 3 different websites for 
>>>> which I have stored usernames and passwords. none of them have let me in. 
>>>> on one, I reset my password and still couldn't get in. I don't know if 
>>>> this means my cursor isn't in the field I think it is or what. when I get 
>>>> into a username or password field I start getting this message about how 
>>>> to use the stored username and/or password in Safari. is there a way to 
>>>> get rid of this maybe in the vo utility or somewhere?
>>>> 
>>>> there's another thing and I don't know if it's related or not. my adblock 
>>>> plus extension had to be deleted because its newest update was causing 
>>>> some kind of clash. I'm still running Sierra so I don't have a lot of 
>>>> popup blocker protection. it does make Safari act a little different for 
>>>> me and that's when I started having trouble with the usernames and 
>>>> passwords on sites that worked fine before.
>>>> 
>>>> I appreciate any feedback you guys might have for me on this.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
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