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Mystic Access has a tutorial on using G suite with screen readers including 
voiceover. I have purchasedit  but have not gone through it yet. It does appear 
to be quite useful. The tech support in the accessibility section of google are 
not trained and although they are well intended, were ultimately not helpful.


> On 19 Nov 2018, at 9:14 am, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A couple of things.  Google makes it difficult to use their web apps due to 
> the ever changing nature of their coding of the apps.  Basic accessibility is 
> always present, but the more interactive nature of these apps is not always 
> quite so friendly.  I would first make sure that you always ensure that 
> Accessible mode is enabled.  Second, actually working within the editable 
> area is often a challenge.  I suggest that when using VO, just use arrow 
> navigation, no VO keys.  If focus is in the editable area, when you arrow 
> down or up, you'll be navigating line by line.  Right/left goes character by 
> character.  Add the Option key to the right/left action and you can go word 
> by word.  There is also a link, or button, that reads something about 
> "Editing" that when pressed, often makes sure that focus for the cursor is in 
> the editable area.  The other thing that I find useful is to use a 
> combination of tools.  ChromeVox in Chrome often allows you to get at 
> editable items more easily as well as many of the menu actions.  Using a 
> combination of ChromeVox, Chrome, VO and Safari often gives you the most 
> success.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 19, 2018, at 09:02, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hello,
> 
> I would be interested in working with you to figure this out. I am not an 
> active user of Google documents but have used them on occasion on both my 
> Braille Note Touch and my Macintosh. 
>> May I contact you off list and from a more personal e-mail address to 
>> discuss. I am not interested  in receiving any compensation. I am interested 
>> in how blind students work with technology, and how specifically the 
>> products we use are considered by people like you.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2018, at 10:37 AM, frednav...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I am a teacher of the visually impaired and working with a freshman 
>> highschooler who has a MacBook provided by her school. Her teachers are 
>> using Google classroom. She uses voiceover on her phone and is very 
>> competent. 
>> 
>> As her TVI I am trying to help her learn voiceover on the laptop. We are 
>> looking for any advice and information regarding using voice over and google 
>> classroom in Google docs. Using the rotar  has been quite helpful. We have 
>> been able to navigate to open up a new document, but cannot figure out how 
>> to get inside the document to begin typing. Any help with learning to 
>> navigate and work within  Google Docs and Google classroom is much 
>> appreciated!!  
>> 
>> Fredna Van Dellen, TVI
>> fredn...@tcoe.org
>> 
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