I must admit I like the sound of the home pods, But as we’re not getting them here in NZ, I’ll stay with sonos
I just have to save for a while to get the sonos play 5 speakers From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Friday, 23 November 2018 8:49 AM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Homepod, was Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product Hi Tim! That’s a very very good point. I am at both apple’s and Android world. Both OS have flaws and Issues but i can do much more easier on the Apple device than i actually can on an android. On the other hand Android can be changable to its maximum. You can root the android devices (at your own risk). But if you talk accessibility i’d say Android is not as accessible as the Apple Devices. /A 22 nov. 2018 kl. 00:55 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>: Hi, Yes, any company can have security issues. The real issue is how your personal information is used and how it is kept. Google and Amazon use your information in a much different way than Apple. Apple does not store mounds of personal information that is open to third party people for various reasons. The tracking of your usage data and other related information by Google and Amazon leaves you more vulnerable to compromise than a company that does not collect data in similar manners. Another thing that I'd like to mention here is regarding the price of Apple hardware. Consider that both Google gains a huge amount of income from advertising revenue. Amazon from sales of just about anything. Apple does not have third party advertising revenue like Google, nor does it sell the multitude of items that Amazon does. Yes, Apple products are expensive compared the other two products mentioned here, but think about it: • Both the MacOS and iOS operating systems are free, not just for decimal upgrades. Do these employees work for free? • tons of Apple stock software is also free. Do these developers work for free? • Accessibility has been a priority for years. I doubt that this team works for free either. • I believe that the hardware in most Apple products, as well as the design principles, is top tier. The comparable hardware by Samsung and Google are not priced that much different. Sure you can get a Google Mini cheap, as you can an Amazon Dot, but when you price the Google Home Max, it isn't that much different price-wise as the HomePod. We are all consumers. We can buy all sorts of things at differing levels of quality or price-points. I can purchase three to one Windows boxes to iMacs for my workplace, but the cost of ownership and longevity of the iMacs make it a much more useful tool for the people we serve. People need to look at this from more than one vantage point if they are going to get a true sense of things. If all you care about is price, then purchase whatever fits your budget. I'll stop now. I have real work to do. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 21, 2018, at 09:39, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Also, any company can have security issues. That includes Apple. So all this paranoya about Amazon and Google using your information is ridiculous. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Nov 21, 2018, at 12:35 AM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com<mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote: That's right apple gets you by over charging you anyways. So they are not really all out for the customer either. All these companies have an end game I suppose. I would choose Amazon or google in the smart speaker space or even sonos. Besides you can always hook them up to a nice surround sound system, so I am not overly stressed about the sound they put out. If I buy a smart speaker I want it to be smart and come at a good price. Maybe I am just thinking as someone that doesn't come from a place of just being able to drop the big bucks. On 11/20/18, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: HI! Yes i totally agree even though i don’t have the google mini. I am thinking of the zeppelin air from B&W. But i saw today that apple will have some black friday event. /A 20 nov. 2018 kl. 00:42 skrev lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com<mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>>: If Siri was as good as the others then it would be worth it maybe. I love my little dot and now I want a google home mini. if apple soled a Mini with a fair price it might be worth looking at. On 11/19/18, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for the reply’s. I have read some reviews on the HomePod. And the folks doing reviewing seemed of the same general opinion regarding the quality of the hardware and that Siri lags behind in some respects. But I always find it interesting to get reviews from real people, rather than just from those being paid to write reviews. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2018, at 4:57 AM, Matthew Horspool <mhorsp...@live.co.uk<mailto:mhorsp...@live.co.uk>> wrote: Hi Mary, I have a Homepod. I will probably get another. But my impressions of it are basically the same as all the reviews you'll find if you Google it: Homepod hardware is absolutely second to none. Sound is fantastic, the microphones can hear me speaking at normal volume from miles away. Siri accuracy is near 100% in terms of it correctly hearing what I want it to do. Homepod software is steadily improving, but still not as capable as, say, Google Assistant. There are still many times where Siri knows what I want her to do, but can't actually do it. Saying that, Google doesn't hear me as well as Siri does, so in terms of time wasted, I'd say they're almost equal! Phone calls, messages, calendars, reminders work well now, but only for one user, which will be a significant shortcoming in a family environment I'm sure. Hope this helps a little bit, Matthew -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: 18 November 2018 01:26 To: viph...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com>; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>; mac4thebl...@freelists.org<mailto:mac4thebl...@freelists.org> Subject: Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product Hi all, This coming Black Friday, there’s going to be a serious discount on the HomePod speaker from Apple at Best Buy. I am thinking about getting a pair of those in an effort for overall down sizing. I have currently a nice stereo set up, but it’s rather old, although the speakers are still wonderful. I’m just curious what peoples impressions are of the HomePod, especially as a stereo pair in a moderate sized living room, as well as how it works otherwise. 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