Yes, on either side of the spacebar. The option keys are to the left and 
right of the command keys. On a laptop, there is only one control key, which is 
on the left side of the keyboard, the second key in going from left to right.
 There is no 

> On Dec 19, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Shirley Healy <shirley1...@eircom.net> wrote:
> 
> Great! Thanks John! I appreciate that!
> the command key is the first on the left of the space bar? is that right?
> shirley
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>  You should be verbally prompted to start VoiceOver with command-F5. At 
> least, this is what normally happens. If you don’t get prompted, just press 
> command-F5 after about fifteen or twenty seconds of turning on the machine. 
> From there, you will have speech and you can follow the on screen prompts 
> through the setup assistant steps.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Shirley Healy <shirley1...@eircom.net> wrote:
>> 
>> so can anyone tell me when I turn on my new mac, what happens? how do I set 
>> it up? I am a totally new mac user. I dont know anything about the mac at 
>> all. I need to be able to turn on vo. can I do that before setting the mac 
>> up? or do I need sighted assistance to set it up?
>> what do I need to know?
>> shirley
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