N.B. is short for Nota Bene which literally means 'note well' in Latin and it is used to draw the reader's attention to the line that it precedes. You said something about German systems being well designed albeit overly complex and I was reminded of the well-known German car brand, Mercedes for upholding a similar design approach. N.B. 'Everything must be made as simple as possible and not simpler.' Albert Einstein. 'Funny' can mean laughable or strange, peculiar. 'Fun' can mean enjoyable, amusing. The distinctions can be a bit blurred in places; hence your understandable confusion. Do look them up here at: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/english where you'll find example sentences for both. If still unclear then feel free to drop me a line privately.
On 5/27/19, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net> wrote: > :-) What means "N.B.“ in long form? > > „fun not funny“ Thanks for the clarification. I’m not really aware of the > differents but always eager to learn. Is funny not just the adjective of > fun? > > Yes, braille without contractions is what german blind braille users on > Apple devices use all the time. But it would be great to have a good > contracted braille too. But this is of course whining at a high level. > > Jürgen > >> Am 27.05.2019 um 18:17 schrieb B G <benjigra...@gmail.com>: >> >> N.B. Mercedes cars. *smile* >> Just for clarity, and forgive me for the apparent pedantry, I think >> you mean 'fun' and not 'funny'. >> maybe a simplified Braille code for German would address the >> above-mentioned et al. I have heard of systems which are entirely in >> long-hand i.e. with no contraction; not sure if the underlying >> rationale is to avoid the type of problems you're citing. >> >> >> On 5/27/19, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net> wrote: >>> In my Windows time there was a german program for this called BKCom. >>> Never >>> liked it very much because writing braille on these smal keyboard keys >>> wasn’t very funny. I wouldn’t need to write braille on a normal >>> keyboard. >>> But anyway there might be a group of people who really would appreciate >>> this >>> function. So give them the suggestion.To have a keyboard shortcut for >>> this >>> would be great. >>> >>> Yes, german braille is well designed but to complicated in its exception >>> rules for automated processes. There was a person named Wolfgang Hubert >>> who >>> collected all exeptional rules and put it in a database. Rumors say it >>> has >>> more then 1 million entries and he seems not to be willing to share it >>> with >>> Apple or Apple might be not interested in it. For example: if you put an >>> f >>> at the end of a word it means a certain endig but only if it sits at the >>> end >>> of certain words. At the end of other words it’s just meant as an f. The >>> computer needs to know in which case which end to put, And this is very >>> difficult in german. Apple uses a free available braille contraction >>> table >>> for german braille but this is very unprecise in terms of these rules. >>> And >>> so it’s not funny to use Apples version of contracted braille in german. >>> And >>> to stress the stereotype once again: german things are mostly well done >>> but >>> sometimes too complicated. ;-) >>> >>>> Am 27.05.2019 um 17:27 schrieb B G <benjigra...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> Good point. How about having a hotkey toggle for switching in an out >>>> of Braille input mode? Say, VO with some key or another to turn on >>>> Braille and a chorded shortcut to switch back to the qwerty layout. >>>> You can't use more than one keyboard at a time in any case. >>>> >>>> I was under the impression that German Braille was very well >>>> constructed albeit a little rule-heavy, not wishing to get into German >>>> stereotypes, of course. *smile* >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/27/19, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net> wrote: >>>>> I’d personally prefere only a solution via the Trackpad. I’d like to >>>>> keep >>>>> both input methods simultaniously usable, normal keaboard via the >>>>> Keyboard >>>>> and braille keyboard via Trackpad. Otherwise what’s the benefit >>>>> changing >>>>> keyboard layout of the normal keyboard? Especially because contracted >>>>> braille in my mother tongue, german, is a little catastrophy. It’s so >>>>> full >>>>> of wrong contraction rules it’s nearly useless. And I’m writing very >>>>> fast >>>>> using my 10 fingers. But to have both methods abailable at the same >>>>> time >>>>> would be very handy. >>>>> Jürgen >>>>>> Am 27.05.2019 um 16:32 schrieb 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> it's called 6-key entry. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/27/2019 3:48 AM, B G wrote: >>>>>>> One could have some of the qwerty keys turned into Braille input >>>>>>> keys >>>>>>> - similar to the the idea originally introduced by Duxbury in the >>>>>>> 90's. Thus, your f, d, s, j, k, l keys would map to dots 1, 2, 3, 4, >>>>>>> 5, 6, and the a and ; (semicolon) keys to dots 7 and 8. >>>>>>> What do we think? >>>>>>> Ben >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>> or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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