Thanks, Tim always helpful.  I must experiment with various documents a little 
more boldly.  You are an encouragement to me.

Andrew
> On 1 Jul 2019, at 16:47, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> I haven't seen any specific documentation related to VO.  I primarily still 
> use PEFPenPro version 6 as well.  I used 7 for a while but had purchased 6 
> through their web-site instead of through the AppStore so updates weren't as 
> seamless.  Somewhere in my MacOS upgrade processes, I ended up reverting back 
> to version 6 and haven't bothered upgrading yet myself.  Regarding editing 
> PDF's, I haven't done much of that either.  I use it a lot for working within 
> editable forms and find it very accessible and useful.  I also use it when 
> reading more complicated PDF's as it tends to read things in a better order 
> than Preview does.  Using the right tool for the job is handy.  Some PDF's 
> I'll just read in Preview, others with PDFPenPro, some sites I use Safari, 
> others I'll use Chrome.  Whatever works best for the task.
> 
> Sorry, not much help with editing yet.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 1, 2019, at 09:17, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> wrote:
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> Hi Tim,
> 
> As far as PDFPen Pro goes, is there a documentation or any pointers as to how 
> to use it with Voiceover?  Have you tried to edit a pdf document in this 
> software and how accessible was the process if you did?
> 
> I have version 6 of the PDFPen Pro and am wondering wehther to upgrade it to 
> the latest version 11.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 14:38, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Hy,
>> 
>> Both PDFPen and PDFPenPro for Mac are very accessible.  Last time I 
>> contacted the developers, they disclosed that their iOS version was not as 
>> VO friendly as their Mac version, but they were working on it.  In my 
>> opinion, it is an excellent PDF app for the Mac.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 11:06, Angus MacKinnon <thedog...@gmail.com 
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>> John and all
>> 
>> I use the standard version of PDF Pen. I bought PDF Pen 10 from:
>> 
>> https://smilesoftware.com/PDFpen <https://smilesoftware.com/PDFpen>
>> 
>> Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
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