Hi, Overlay wouldn't be an issue. The windows from the various apps are independent of the menus. If there's an app, or agent, running in the background that keeps taking focus, that may cause the issue. These would be special apps though, ones that do not normally have any menus as a part of their entity. Apps like Login window would be an example of that. Agents like TM Agent or Security Agent also do not have menus, but these, when front focused, should not allow you to go to either menu set. For agents, you can usually press cmd-tab to cycle out of them, or press cmd-shift-h while in the Finder to bring focus back to the proper windows. Do you hhter... have apps associated with your external devices? These would be things such as security or backup controllers. These, or malware apps may be affecting things.
Later... Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 25, 2020, at 21:40, Dave Carlson <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I’ve been doing a lot of tweaking and have at least made this issue very repeatable. With just the Finder open, this will happen repeatedly. With another app open, it will still happen repeatedly… 1. I’m in Finder, positioned on the desktop, focused on an icon. 2. No other Finder windows open. 3. Press VO+m 4a. “Finder Busy” and then Apple Menu appears, -or- 4b. Apple Menu appears immediately. 5. Press VO+M 6. Extras Menu appears immediately with all the items available. 7. Press VO+M 8. Focus returns to the icon on the Finder Desktop — not the Apple menu. This is supposed to be a toggle, isn’t it? 9. VO+M 10. Extras Menu — but it’s empty 11. VO+M 12. Back to icon in Finder. etc. etc. This will also happen with the mail app. Again the “App busy” indicator tend to appear if I’ve just switched to that app using Cmd+Tab. But the same non-toggle behavior happens after just one iteration. Pressing Tab after the first successful entry into the Extras Menu to get back to the app does not help. Once I’m back to the app after leaving the Extras Menu, I cannot get the Apple menu nor the Extras menu to appear. Only way is to switch to another app and then switch back. This usually allows the cycle to start over. Is it possible that my apps are opening up in some overlay mode, so that the Extras menu obscures the Apple menu, or vice-versa? Where do I go to change the relative positioning of open windows and/or how they are lined up? Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AE31BD67-E599-443A-B8AF-297B08A4D5B6%40sbcglobal.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/461C6038-BEC6-4820-88C0-73A46330DA16%40me.com.
