Hi Pete,

I just did. I figure I'll live with it fora while and see what I think.
Cheers,
Donna

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> On Jun 28, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Pete De Vasto <pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Just a thought, Donna: Unlike Mac OS where the dock is always present, 
> unless I’m missing something, the only way you can make the dock visible on 
> the iPhone is to get back to the home screen from whatever app you are in. 
> Maybe there’s a way you could creat some sort of script to do a VO+H to get 
> to the home screen and then VO+Dots 4 5 6 to get to the dock. For now I 
> think, ultimately, as E.T. has already said, that the best solution for you 
> is to rearrange the four items on your dock, thinking about which one you use 
> most (like Mail for you, right?) and putting that one on the very right side. 
> Will it take getting used to? You bet! Will you double-tap on the wrong one a 
> time or two? Sure! But, once you get used to the new arrangement, I bet 
> you’ll be glad you did it! I’ve rearranged my dock a few times when I’ve 
> needed to and boy has that come in handy! And drag and drop is pretty good 
> now with VO, at least it has been for me. OK, end of rearranging icons sales 
> pitch, I hope you don’t mind donna!
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 10:41 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Pete,
>> 
>> Yeah, I think dots 456-chord is as good as it gets. It just surprises me. 
>> Moving to the dock is such a common thing on i-devices that I would think 
>> there would be a command for it.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Pete De Vasto <pdevasto0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna and all,
>>> 
>>> I’m very late to the party with this thread, and my suggestion may have 
>>> already been posted. I have an older Focus 40 Blue display, and when I’m on 
>>> the home screen I can press Space + dots 4, 5 and 6, and focus lands on the 
>>> right-most icon of the dock. Since there are only four items on the dock, 
>>> it’s not a big deal, at least for me, to move left a time or two to get to 
>>> the icon on the dock that I want. I also went to VO settings, and looked at 
>>> the Braille commands lists as I am sure you have as well, and I couldn’t 
>>> find a specific Go To Dock command. Hopefully space + 4 5 6 is a good 
>>> enough workaround, although I know it’s not ideal.
>>> 
>>> Pete De Vasto
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 10:03 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Donna, did you move the mail app to the very far right on the dock?
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/28/2020 9:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, Anders, but I’m looking for a braille display command, not a 
>>>>> qwerty command.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> Or you could use the command m to open mail without going to the doc.
>>>>>> Its the right command key though.
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 27 juni 2020 kl. 20:33 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> An idea. If the dock qualifies as a container then you can assign 
>>>>>>> commands to move to the top ot bottom of the container.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also too, you can move those apps to different locations on the dock.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2020 11:31 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>>>> No, I don't either.
>>>>>>>> So Mail is the first item in my dock. I want to be able to issue a 
>>>>>>>> keyboard command, and land on Mail so I can open it. Just trying to 
>>>>>>>> minimize all the futzing around you have to do when using a keyboard 
>>>>>>>> with iOS.
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well maybe I don't understand. iPhone or iPad? There are only 4/5 
>>>>>>>>> items on the dock. Thre is no top to the dock. Clue me in. :) I did 
>>>>>>>>> not see ay options for the dock in the assignment list.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2020 11:18 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I do, but that takes you all the way to the end of the screen. It’s 
>>>>>>>>>> not a huge deal, you just have to scroll backwards them. But it 
>>>>>>>>>> seems like there should be a braille command for moving the dock. I 
>>>>>>>>>> wonder if you can create it with a custom command. Maybe I’ll play 
>>>>>>>>>> around with that.
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 1:16 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>>> <Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>    There is not a specific command for the dock. It is the last 
>>>>>>>>>>> item on the screen so use space 4-5-6.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2020 10:40 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried that, but it doesn't work. At least not with my VU.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Caitlyn Furness 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it’s chord d…
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cait
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 10:13 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject says it all. Is there a command that will take you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly to the dock on a braille display? I know the dot-456 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chord will take you to the bottom of the screen, but then you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still have to scroll backward to get to the top of the dock.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping there's some way to just move directly to the first 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> item in the dock.  Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
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